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Old 06-17-2008, 12:54 AM
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I been reading many post on what people think a BOV and BPV do. But what i get from wiki is that the two are the same. One just vents. Any one have any input on this? I want to use a BOV on a D1SC I would lke to use the HKS SSQV But people say that it will damage my head unit i would like to know how it would damage the headunit.

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A bypass valve is always bleeding off boost until is sees close to zero vacuum, such as when going to wide open throttle. This way there is no load on the blower.

A blow off valve typically does not bleed off boost until a set psi is achieved, then it releases the pressure. A supercharger is always making boost, even at idle. If this boost is not vented off, it has to go somewhere when the throttle blade is closed shut. If it can't find a weak hose in the plumbing, it will try to slow the blower down, putting a strain on the blower as the blower is belt driven. A blow off valve can also cause supercharger belt slippage when letting off the throttle. Bob
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exactly. In other words... No there not the same and dont use a BOV on a Blower setup.
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Is there a reason you can't run both a BOV and a BPV on a blower setup, using the BOV as a back up essentially if the BPV can handle the venting all the boost after WOT?
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Why would you do that instead of just getting an appropriately sized BPV? I say just get the red ATI race BPV and be done with it.

But as Bob stated- they are not the same. BPV's are always open until it starts to see boost. BOV's are closed all the time until they see a spike in backpressure...
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
A bypass valve is always bleeding off boost until is sees close to zero vacuum, such as when going to wide open throttle. This way there is no load on the blower.

A blow off valve typically does not bleed off boost until a set psi is achieved, then it releases the pressure. A supercharger is always making boost, even at idle. If this boost is not vented off, it has to go somewhere when the throttle blade is closed shut. If it can't find a weak hose in the plumbing, it will try to slow the blower down, putting a strain on the blower as the blower is belt driven. A blow off valve can also cause supercharger belt slippage when letting off the throttle. Bob
very nice... Questions

Can you set the PSI to be very low IE idle speeds?

How would you make a BOV stay open untill it sees the boost?

Can you use a BOV and a BPV?

Reason why i ask is because i LOVE the sound off SWOOSH!!!!
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Were do you run your reference to for a blow off vlave? Does it go to the maifold or inlet piping?
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you can vent the bypass if you wish to have noise.

if you try to run a blow off with real low opening pressure your car will chirp like a bird 90% of the time.

go with a mondo bypass and vent it and you will get the sound you want as well as keep your blower healthy
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ineed a sound clip of a mondo
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
A bypass valve is always bleeding off boost until is sees close to zero vacuum, such as when going to wide open throttle. This way there is no load on the blower.

A blow off valve typically does not bleed off boost until a set psi is achieved, then it releases the pressure. A supercharger is always making boost, even at idle. If this boost is not vented off, it has to go somewhere when the throttle blade is closed shut. If it can't find a weak hose in the plumbing, it will try to slow the blower down, putting a strain on the blower as the blower is belt driven. A blow off valve can also cause supercharger belt slippage when letting off the throttle. Bob
Damn, Bob, your expertise at making power may be exceeded by your inability to explain it. I have a boss like that. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing, but to hear him explain it sounds like a 4th grade retard class.
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Originally Posted by gametech
Damn, Bob, your expertise at making power may be exceeded by your inability to explain it. I have a boss like that. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing, but to hear him explain it sounds like a 4th grade retard class.
I understood it well . I thought it was some good info
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Originally Posted by BigBenz
very nice... Questions

Can you set the PSI to be very low IE idle speeds?

How would you make a BOV stay open untill it sees the boost?

Can you use a BOV and a BPV?

Reason why i ask is because i LOVE the sound off SWOOSH!!!!
If you kept a blow off valve open until it sees boost, you wouldn't build up the pressure that creates that whoosh sound. You will hear a little of it with the ProCharger race Valve and the Vortech Mondo valve, especially if you are running a lot of boost, but certainly not like you would with a turbo. Bob
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Originally Posted by gametech
Damn, Bob, your expertise at making power may be exceeded by your inability to explain it. I have a boss like that. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing, but to hear him explain it sounds like a 4th grade retard class.
LOL

In other words, only run a bpv with a SC beacouse it will surge the compressor and break stuff.

Bov's have a spring inside them, the BPV's do not or very small.
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dont base your knowledge off of wikipedia. Its an open sourced website where any ricer can add it in.

Believe me..there is a difference. Go put a BOV on a blower car and downshift hard.
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Originally Posted by ChevyChad
Why would you do that instead of just getting an appropriately sized BPV? I say just get the red ATI race BPV and be done with it.

But as Bob stated- they are not the same. BPV's are always open until it starts to see boost. BOV's are closed all the time until they see a spike in backpressure...
I was more curious than anything, it looks like a couple of people have asked and I was just wondering. Does anybody know?



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