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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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crank is 7.65 blower is 4.25
The car is way down on power than normal so even if the dyno is acting up, its painfully obvious it is lacking power. I just don't know why yet
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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A 4.25 should do around 8psi , i would stay away from dropping pulleys even if you have methanol, tick tick boom.

Just get a solid tune-up and it should be good to go.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Just for reference, last fall this car made 423hp on a dynojet with an unlocked converter (before the 6 speed swap) and a p1sc maxed out @7psi with the ati twin intercoolers.
If it had a 6 speed then i'll bet the numbers would have been close to what my car put down now.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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you see lots of KR when you get on it w/ the blower? do you have tuner?

just curious
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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I havent had anything to scan or log with.
I got my hands on an interceptor scan guage that I am installing today.
I've been thinking, a few years back I was having some similar problems. I replaced the
o2's and it took care of it. Also my temp guage has been freaking out every now and then, going almost all the way up then to normal and so on and so on. I think i'll change the o2's and the temp sensor and see what happens.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake@EPP
A 4.25 should do around 8psi , i would stay away from dropping pulleys even if you have methanol, tick tick boom.

Just get a solid tune-up and it should be good to go.
A 7.65/4.25 is about the same as the 7.25/4 I run most of the time, I see 17 in the middle of summer at that same blower speed with a 365
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Update: The connections on my aftermarket fans had worked loose and were barely touching, explaining the wacky temp gauge. I also changed the o2 sensors. Took it out last night and its a night and day difference! I'll be runnin at the track on friday so well see how it does.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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I would not run that car at the track till you get a real tune.

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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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I'm not worried. A lil on the rich side and conservative timing. What else is there to worry about?
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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washed out cylinder walls, excessive carbon build up, plugs fouling out leading to mis fires and stressing other components, fuel in oil eating at bearings, not to much to worry about for the coin invested.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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For running half a point richer than where it should be for less than half the rpm range? I think your being a bit dramatic. I'll take my chances.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Funkybird
For running half a point richer than where it should be for less than half the rpm range? I think your being a bit dramatic. I'll take my chances.
Good luck with that. Me personally, I wouldn't risk what you have already invested just because you don't have a good tune. Plus you won't even get to see what it's really capable of. If your o2s were bad, odds are it was because your **** tune and they will be bad again soon so then your just running like **** again. I don't know, doesn't make sence to me
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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Ok, I gotta ask. The ideal af ratio for FI is 11.7 right? Before the dyno I ran a buddies wideband in my y pipe for a few days. Under WOT it was as low as 11.1 and creeped up to 11.9 on the top end.
So if its .6 too rich would it really be as drastic as what has been mentioned? Personnaly I don't think it would.
I did a quick search for afr and found alot of people tuning for 11.1 anywhere to people tuning for 12.1 and nobody is lecturing them about washing out cylinder walls and eating up bearing etc?
Maybe you guys can teach me something?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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I'm not a tuner, I just know if your having issues with it running right and you havn't had a full dyno tune on it since the changes, it's just asking for trouble taking it to the track and beating on it. I let my tuner handle afr.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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I'm going to have to agree, you need to get this car to a dyno-tuning facility and have it tuned properly. You have way to much money invested in this scenario to do something like throw caution to the wind. I don't think it's being dramatic, so much as, being smart. Mail order tunes for FI at the very most should be a band-aid to get the car running and take it to a dyno-tuning facility with a wideband O2. Remember, most of these guys giving you advice don't want to see your hard work go down the drain. I personally would like to see a bad azz FI-LT1 (your car) running on the street and taking names.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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I am just getting very frustrated with people telling me im gonna break my **** because it is running "too rich" when so many other people INTENTIONALLY tune for afr's as rich as mine. LT1's run down into the tens on the afr scale from the factory for hells sakes.

Thanks for the props man! I am going to get a real tune so please don't get me confused with somebody who is wreckless and doesn't care, because like has been said already, I have way too much invested into this car! The mail order tune was just so I could get it in the ball park and have it driveable till I do get another tune.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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I wouldnt get angry man, just people trying to keep your investment safe. Sure it may be fine with the tune your running now but it sounds like your really down on power so I personally wouldnt run it at the track but if you feel confident enough that it should be fine then go for it. BTW whats your setup?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Its a 355 lt1, 8.75:1 cr, ported lt4 heads and intake, custom blower cam. built by speed inc. Blower is an f1a with epp's fmic.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 04:32 AM
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Im around 11.7~8 at toe in and lean up to 12.3 at redline. You are a little rich, pull the plugs see how they look, get that interceptor in there and see if its knocking.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 07:11 AM
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afr's are nice and all that, but i tend to still read the plugs-ck them out, go for it
Steve Morris, who is a master at building and tuning procharged engines, just dyno'ed (engine dyno) a friends s/b, made 1296 h/p. 22 lbs boost, and had 12.4 afr's
my first thought was thats on the lean side, the common thinking is to be in the 11,s, but this is where the engin was tuned at
i run my car a little fat, cause it likes it-now if you have black smoke rolling out the back all the time, i would be worried, lol
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