Trick flow to release blower for the Lsx!!!
11-24-2008, 08:35 PM
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Jeff,
I have seen you mention this data a few times over different threads and forums, but I never see anything but the same dyno chart:
Exactly how would you like the data??
LAST WEEK, we tested all of the blowers the KB was the most efficient in all areas of the tests we made. Then the whipple, then the eaton.
Although the info up top is close, the math is off due to a few variables which actually scew the numbers quite a lot.. I'll try and bust out the actual test data tomorrow. Not just the data above, but the adiabatic efficiency tables, parasitic loss graphing, IAT vs PSI tests, rotor speed tests, inlet and outlet air charge and density tests, as well as I/C efficiency tests.
WE (KB and TPE) know our competition very very well. We have EVERY one of their blowers and manifolds. We have tested them in ever way known to man..To include disassembling them and documenting their internals.
YES, in some areas the KB is not as efficient, but its so minimal, and the other areas are so great, its not even a competition. Can you post up this data, please? I'm very interested in seeing what testing you did and what the results were.
Thanks,
Jim
I have seen you mention this data a few times over different threads and forums, but I never see anything but the same dyno chart:
Exactly how would you like the data??
LAST WEEK, we tested all of the blowers the KB was the most efficient in all areas of the tests we made. Then the whipple, then the eaton.
Although the info up top is close, the math is off due to a few variables which actually scew the numbers quite a lot.. I'll try and bust out the actual test data tomorrow. Not just the data above, but the adiabatic efficiency tables, parasitic loss graphing, IAT vs PSI tests, rotor speed tests, inlet and outlet air charge and density tests, as well as I/C efficiency tests.
WE (KB and TPE) know our competition very very well. We have EVERY one of their blowers and manifolds. We have tested them in ever way known to man..To include disassembling them and documenting their internals.
YES, in some areas the KB is not as efficient, but its so minimal, and the other areas are so great, its not even a competition.
Thanks,
Jim
06-09-2009, 11:25 PM
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kb 2.8h with a ls2 402...here you go..
Yes, there will be a twin screw blower for the f-body. Its just taking time. Te 2.6kb is structuraly no bigger than the maggie mp112. What **** us all up is the inlet tube, and the bypass valve. But we are trying a few little things to correct thos obsticles.
Btw, we tested the whipple 3.3l against the kb2.8h. Same motor, same boost, same rpm. The whpple made less power.
Its simple physics. The rotors need to spin at a certain speed to get within the relm of optimal efficiency. The 3.3l blower (which kb has as well, its just a prototype) is just to big for the current motors. You cant get the rotor speeds high enough, and alow the motor to breath well enough to make any significant change.
We wont even go into the structural integrity on the cast case with rotos spinning at 15,000rpm's..lol
is that an f-body setup?????? :d:d:d
Yes, there will be a twin screw blower for the f-body. Its just taking time. Te 2.6kb is structuraly no bigger than the maggie mp112. What **** us all up is the inlet tube, and the bypass valve. But we are trying a few little things to correct thos obsticles.
Btw, we tested the whipple 3.3l against the kb2.8h. Same motor, same boost, same rpm. The whpple made less power.
Its simple physics. The rotors need to spin at a certain speed to get within the relm of optimal efficiency. The 3.3l blower (which kb has as well, its just a prototype) is just to big for the current motors. You cant get the rotor speeds high enough, and alow the motor to breath well enough to make any significant change.
We wont even go into the structural integrity on the cast case with rotos spinning at 15,000rpm's..lol
is that an f-body setup?????? :d:d:d
11-22-2009, 01:45 AM
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So was this all just crap or is it happening? A 2.8 kenne bell would be sweet but the only post I saw of someone using a screw blower had the windshield cut out, cowl welded up, and the intake running into the cabin. Probably not a DIY kit?
Bob
11-23-2009, 08:07 AM
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Glad to see the same arguments are still being talked about some 8-10 years after the realization that no one is ever going to make a kit for car that was not produced since 2002!
