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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Bad *** man... dont worry about the Dyno #'s..... get her to the track.....
Set. 5th at Famosa raceway
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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Can you post the graphs so we can the hp/tq curves?
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by vanillagorilla
Can you post the graphs so we can the hp/tq curves?
Nope. Don't have a sheet and it wouldn't be accurate anyway considering the tuner was rolling into the throttle instead of just stabbing it. The dyno was just used to record A/F and power gains after making adjustments since it spins to much on the street to get an accurate load. Nothing more.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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This will answer all your questions about our ST80 versus a 76GTS....period.

Posted by a customer of ours, screename is (Qikazz) on Corral.net


OK, my car can be seen here - http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=925968

With the standard HP Turbo kit and a Precision PT76GTS turbo, it put down right at 730rwhp. Well, I wanted to upgrade the turbo, but realized that this would require me doing some additional work to the downpipe and cold side pipes. In fact, I tried to do it last year with a PT88, but found the length of that turbo to be prohibitive. Then I came across this Borg Warner ST80. I have read nothing but great things about this turbo. In fact, there is a guy on LS1Tech that made over 120rwhp more when he switched from a pt76gts to this ST80 unit - at the same boost level of 20#'s. I'm hoping for those same results... We will see. The car is supposed to be dynoed today. I'll let you know how it goes.

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I had to do some additional trimming in the fender area to make this turbo fit... Also, I had to have a larger downpipe made because the outlet on the hotside of the ST80 is 4inches.... We just remade the top part of the downpipe and slipped it over the existing part, which is 3.5inches down by the header. Additionally, the new part is made out of 304 stainless steel.



You will notice also that I added a 50mm Tial blow-off valve as well.



Here you can see the aluminum pipes. We reversed the direction that the pipes go into the intercooler. Now the pipe going from the turbo goes into the TOP of the intercooler and the pipe sending the air to the throttlebody now exits at the bottom of the intercooler. This makes for a cleaner look in my opinion. Also, we put a v-band clamp connecting the pipe going to the throttlebody and the pipe coming out of the intercooler. I had some problems with this area before because the hose coupler would blow off under big boost, and it was really hard to get at it in the fender. Well, problem solved with the v-band.



Big thanks goes out to my friends at C.A.R.S. High Performance in Waterford, MI for doing the great work. Sean is the man. check out their website - www.carshighperformance.com

Turbo is available through Jose at www.forcedinductions.com

If you have any questions about what we did here, or need any help, just reply in the thread and I'll try to answer any questions that you have. I promise not to tell you to use the search button first!

Qikazz
After the dyno session!!!!!

OK, the car is on the dyno as I'm typing. Here's where we are so far...

1. The car just made a tad over 700rwhp @ 16lbs of boost. Keep in mind, it made 730rwhp @ 21lbs of boost with the pt76gts. So, it looks like this thing is going to make quite a bit more steam.

2. The car is breaking up above 6000rpms right now. We are trying to determine why...We think that it may possibly be the TFI module on the distributor. We have a call in to AEM right now (since its still early afternoon in California where they are) to see if we can by-pass the TFI altogether and just run a signal directly to the MSD box. Sean thinks that the AEM box is capable of doing this. We will see.

3. My converter is still waaaaayyyyyy to loose. Doing the math, it appears that it is slipping about 22% right now, which is just ridiculous. It irks me because I just had this thing restalled, too.

I'll report back when we know more.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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A trip to the track......car is a full weight car with an AOD which is a HP sucker.

Well just got back from Milan Dragway today and came back with a new personal best. Car ran really good all day. I definately need an anti-rollbar now. But non-the-less, I'm pretty happy with my AOD-equipped street car that I can lazily loaf down the expressway to Woodward tonight.

Here's the timeslip
60ft - 1.48
330ft. - 3.98
1/8 ET - 6.00
1/8 MPH - 117.88
1000' ET - 7.86
1000' MPH - 134.78
1/4 ET - 9.38
1/4 MPH - 148.10

I want to personally thank Sean for coming to the track and helping me out today. Definately didn't have to do that, but I appreciate the way Sean takes a personal interest in his customers. Every time we get the car out it seems to go a little faster thanks to Sean's tuning. More of you need to take advantage of this guy's knowledge and ability!

Dan

ps. still lovin' the converter Mike (of Ridings Automatics) and thanks for calling me to see what it ran. I appreciate the personal interest you've shown in helping me get the car to go this fast. Still chasing an 8.99 before the snow falls!
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:04 AM
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Car weighs 3630 with me in it race ready. PIG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qPwrXmTqDA

(the dyno operator was doing some funny things trying to brake boost it just before the pull in case you were wondering).
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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Very nice, anxiuos to see what she can muster....... be safe out there now!
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:11 AM
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ninetres, what size IC and piping do you run?
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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ninetres, what size IC and piping do you run?
The big 4" wide ebay special. 3" piping I believe.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Man, that is sick as hell dude. Might have to look into that freakin turbo for my rig. Also running TH400 (for now), and a 408. Pretty scary when it kicks in eh?
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Man, that is sick as hell dude. Might have to look into that freakin turbo for my rig. Also running TH400 (for now), and a 408. Pretty scary when it kicks in eh?
Eh, yea. I only did a few pulls so far. It is REAL conservative with the A/F, and only 17-18* timing on 12.5 psi. I think my car might of felt a little faster with the T76gts @ 15psi........but I am still working little kinks out of this set-up. Only way to know for sure is hit the track.
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Originally Posted by ninetres
Eh, yea. I only did a few pulls so far. It is REAL conservative with the A/F, and only 17-18* timing on 12.5 psi. I think my car might of felt a little faster with the T76gts @ 15psi........but I am still working little kinks out of this set-up. Only way to know for sure is hit the track.
That's great man, glad to see you're still fine tuning that baby. Let us know how it goes @ Famoso on the 5th! Wish I could make it... I'm heading out to camp on the dunes again with the Tahoe. (Comp hill what?)
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Originally Posted by ninetres
The big 4" wide ebay special. 3" piping I believe.
Why 4"? Do you think 3" would rob some power?
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Why 4"? Do you think 3" would rob some power?
Less cooling ability. The 4" is so cheap why even consider the 3"????
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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Hey sean,thanks for the support for our shop.Im very happy the motor is doing well.I spent alot of time on that beast.Anyway i was just getting it into boost before i made the pull,thats why i was brake boosting it a bit before the pull.

Also after i logged your timing and fuel trims,it saw a peak of 19 degrees with zero knock,averaged 16 to 18.Rick did a great job on the tune,matt did a great job on the build,and looks like i did my job on the motor.CAnt wait to goto the track.Also i got you covered on the wide band.DOnt worry about it.Worry about getting it on the trailor and to the ******* track with us on the 5th.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by elky489
Hey sean,thanks for the support for our shop.Im very happy the motor is doing well.I spent alot of time on that beast.Anyway i was just getting it into boost before i made the pull,thats why i was brake boosting it a bit before the pull.

Also after i logged your timing and fuel trims,it saw a peak of 19 degrees with zero knock,averaged 16 to 18.Rick did a great job on the tune,matt did a great job on the build,and looks like i did my job on the motor.CAnt wait to goto the track.Also i got you covered on the wide band.DOnt worry about it.Worry about getting it on the trailor and to the ******* track with us on the 5th.
ahahhahah. Much love Nate. Motor seems REAL stout. Hope I we both can make it too!
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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I will share my experiences with the ST80 on my 6speed Supra:

ST80 (3rd gear pulls):
On WG spring (17-19 psi) the car dyno'd 660hp
At 31psi it did 890HP on a 100deg day
I am adding a CO2 system to the car in hopes of being able to hold 40psi.

Usually we dyno 6speed supras in 4th gear, but since switching to 28in tall tires I decided to do 3rd gear pulls to keep the wheel speeds at a reasonable level.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by brobards
I will share my experiences with the ST80 on my 6speed Supra:

ST80 (3rd gear pulls):
On WG spring (17-19 psi) the car dyno'd 660hp
At 31psi it did 890HP on a 100deg day
I am adding a CO2 system to the car in hopes of being able to hold 40psi.

Usually we dyno 6speed supras in 4th gear, but since switching to 28in tall tires I decided to do 3rd gear pulls to keep the wheel speeds at a reasonable level.
Your numbers will go down,by 10 to 20 % by pulling in 3rd gear.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by elky489
Your numbers will go down,by 10 to 20 % by pulling in 3rd gear.
Yes.....but 200mph on a Dyno is SCARY.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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True, and 200MPH on the dyno plus a set of slicks self destructing is even scarier... Dont ask how I know...
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