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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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I've talked to a handful of people this week that have had issues with knocking out the thrust(Crank) in the engine. Everyone is turbocharged. Do the converters balloon that much or is something else causing this?
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Interesting I would like to know to
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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I'm far from an expert but if/when a convertor balloons doesn't it pretty much stay that way? I've always checked by unbolting the convertor and sliding it back to ensure it wasn't pushing the crank in. I don't see why a particular power adder would be harder on thrust bearings than another?
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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I really am not sure what you are asking so I am subscribing to learn more!
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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psi 400 has answered the question over in yellowbullet forums
is got to do with the torque converter charge pressure....


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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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ive taken out my thrust on my old T56 76gts 365ci setup.... it made me sad. never found out the exact reason
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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I think that may be the reason my previous motor spun the mains. Good ol' fuddle! Still rockin' a new one
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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Phil,

What trans?

My buddy ran a 434 SBC, twin Exile 47-88s with a Bruno trans and he was constantly killing the thrust bearings in it. Is was converter related, but I thought he said there was something else as well regarding it. I will ask him if you have the same trans. He sold the trans and now has a three speed back in the car. My other buddy Giuseppe Gentile got him to ditch the bruno and run another three speed.

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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I half think that, if this was the cause, we would be hearing about it more often....and not just on turbo cars but all power adders.

Is it linked to one type of converter? Are they OE or discount aftermarket?

Also, if the converter balloons, how much can it expand before it fails? Wouldn't a big increase in tolerances inside make it noticeably inefficient?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 05:53 AM
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how much space did you have between the converter and flexplate (when you pushed the converter all the way in the tranny)
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Originally Posted by Awake455
I half think that, if this was the cause, we would be hearing about it more often....and not just on turbo cars but all power adders.

Is it linked to one type of converter? Are they OE or discount aftermarket?

Also, if the converter balloons, how much can it expand before it fails? Wouldn't a big increase in tolerances inside make it noticeably inefficient?
I think 2000+hp turbo cars are just a little more common than other forms of FI. Poll some real high hp procharger guys, and you might find the same problems. Kind of a numbers game.
The converter would certainly take a brunt of the force generated, and it has to go somewhere.
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i just spun a bearing, builder said it was the thrust bearing out and due to the converter pushing. t400 converter pro edge 4000, 88mm, on a 370. should i send the converter back to get redone or what?
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Originally Posted by veee8
I think 2000+hp turbo cars are just a little more common than other forms of FI. Poll some real high hp procharger guys, and you might find the same problems. Kind of a numbers game.
The converter would certainly take a brunt of the force generated, and it has to go somewhere.
Im no expert here but other forms of forced induction dont just sit against the transbrake like a turbo car to build boost, that has to really multiply the stress on the convertor

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Phil I just dove into mine, 150 passes at the 700RWHP mark and virtually no thrust wear at all.

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mine had zero thrust wear after 40 passes
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Originally Posted by Fireball
mine had zero thrust wear after 40 passes
That is beacuse the crank was walking around other ways!
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by veee8
That is beacuse the crank was walking around other ways!
crank wasn't walking...mains were...bearings showed no flex-movement issues...kinda wierd actually
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cjg454ss
i just spun a bearing, builder said it was the thrust bearing out and due to the converter pushing. t400 converter pro edge 4000, 88mm, on a 370. should i send the converter back to get redone or what?
we have found it to be torque converter design causing this,ATI has fixxed this problem in thier converters,that is the reason fireball had no thrust issues
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I never had any thrust bearing issue's with my old motor.
I beat the heck out of it also.
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Originally Posted by HUNTER02SS
I never had any thrust bearing issue's with my old motor.
I beat the heck out of it also.
which converter?
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