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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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Hello all, Im going to start running my SS at the road track to get a little more experience before we take a vette. And I really wanna a forced induction set-up on my SS but my Father would not like it too much if I was out on the street with a lot of boost, if you know what I mean.

So my question is I already have a NX MAF kit (not on the car) and I would like to run a Vortech kit (no need to replace the radiator for road racing, correct? Because the head-unit sits higher) so I probably will get the 6# kit and just run normal on the street and when at the track use the nitrous for like straight a-ways and such to help cool the intake charge and have a little extra power when the 03 Cobras get a little close to ya. So does this sound like it would make sense.

Also the NX MAF kit bolts where the end MAF housing was and with the Vortech kit the MAF gets mounted along ways up before the throttle body so this should give the nitrous more time to cool the intake charge correct? LOL I dunno im just trying to find a way to solve my Horsepower needs and do what the dad will allow!

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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Also what about tunning will the Vortech tunning be ok with the nitrous spraying? And would a dry kit be better, where to spray it at, would it be better after the supercharger?
And would the engine over heat really easy on the track with an non-intercooled kit or would I be ok?

LOL sorry for all the questions but you guys are the gurus so ive came to the best to ask.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Vortech w/ 50 shot

You can run a 50-shot of nitrous along with the Vortech supercharger, but a forged bottom end is almost a necessity in that case (if you plan on making more than one full-throttle pass).

In reading your questions I think you're better off doing a LOT more research on topic of superchargers first, especially the kit you're interested in, then revisiting the topic of adding nitrous.

Here's a good place to start (Study these four pages)
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?id=15
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=31
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=76
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=85

Good luck.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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Watch your complete fuel system.
re: keeping it cool while road racing for 30 mins, consider a larger water pump and dual air to water radiators.
re: engine + boost + nitrous, consider your pistons.

Not to mention tuning.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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I think that playing with dual power adders is playing with fire.

I don't think most of our users have researched the issues for dual p/a, ie cylinder and also fueling.

So I vote no, I think that's a bit too advanced an idea to try to phase in until you actually have the blower on the car.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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I think that playing with dual power adders is playing with fire.

I don't think most of our users have researched the issues for dual p/a, ie cylinder and also fueling.

So I vote no, I think that's a bit too advanced an idea to try to phase in until you actually have the blower on the car.
The idea of dual power adders is not that advanced. if you look at the two, they were meant to be with each other. Like peanut butter and Jelly. people have been using force inductions and n2o for a long time. The cooling factors of the juice along with a blower are a great combination. You should look into it sometime.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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I think it make sense with the 6# kit and like a 50 shot that will be making less hp than what some people do on stock internals and a 50 shot and 6# prob like 4# on my car isnt alot to throw at it. The nitorus would just be a chemical intercooler when i need it
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Vortech w/ 50 shot

I have looked into it.

He's talking about running it with dry nitrous.

So you need bigger injectors for that.

Plus I think you would need to pull the timing back even more.

I'd get the car running on blower first and see what you've got.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Vortech w/ 50 shot

I have been doing it for awhile, 9psi + a dry 35 shot = no problems for me and I have a stock bottom and topend. Playing with fire 'maybe' but I have a good tune. I have turned the N2O off right now because boost is now around 13-14psi with the MMS pulley. N2O wouldn't be wise at this boost level with stock internals. I will be running the boost+N2O again but with a bigger shot once the new forged beastie goes in, just waiting on my heads to come back from absolute speed( polished my chambers and added SS exhaust valves)
just my 2 cents
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Vortech w/ 50 shot

frcefed98 where are you spraying that 35 shot? i have seen alot of new kits for supercharged/turbocharged cars for the intercoolers. look into the import scene they do it all the time. i was thinking of doing a wet kit with a 2nd fuel pump from my tank, it seems cheaper then going the ys trim way for now.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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I spray into the ATI plenum so it is before the MAF. I will post pics if you want to check it out. Let me know,

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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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please im interested in seeing the pics you could email them to me @ mpsychoss@aol.com
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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Default Re: Vortech w/ 50 shot

I would run a 50 shot with a WET KIT ONLY

Tune the car with the blower on, get it perfect and then setup the wet kit and jet low.

This will also get around MAF limitations as well.
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