Fueling & Injection Fuel Pumps | Injectors | Rails | Regulators | Tanks

e85 pump for turbo car question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:01 PM
  #1  
00ultraz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default e85 pump for turbo car question

I'm building a 370 with a 91 on the front of it and trying to decide on my fuel system... since the beginning of the build I've wanted to go with an aluminum sumped tank with an aeromotive a1000 and 80# injectors, but I think i wanna go e85 now.... since it uses about 30 percent more fuel to run e85, whats going to be a good pump and injector to do tha job.... hoping to put somewhere are 750-800 to the tires
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:05 PM
  #2  
E-Works's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: chicago
Default

same fuel system just prolly 90's or so but it will make a difference in what ecm/ stand alone u have as far as injector u can use
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:09 PM
  #3  
00ultraz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default

i knew the a1000 would be fine for race gas, but wasn't sure if it would support the extra 30 percent... and i also talked to a guy saying he was maxing out 80s making around 700 i think making about the same power so i figured i would need bigger than a 90 to be safe... I'm going to be running the stock 2000 pcm as long as i can
Reply
Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:46 PM
  #4  
NicD's Avatar
7 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,170
Likes: 690
From: Chandler, AZ
Default

If you are shooting for around 800 rwhp with the turbo you will need appprox 120 lb injectors with a driver box for E85 and a larger pump then the A1000. Then again your motor and turbo would support quite a bit more than 800 rwhp. The 120s are good to around 900-1000 rwhp on E85 depending on your fuel pressure.
Reply
Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:39 PM
  #5  
brandoz28's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Default

you could always convert to a mechanical pump and not have to worry about the electric
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:15 PM
  #6  
camarols1's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 699
Likes: 2
From: NW Chicago Suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by NicD
If you are shooting for around 800 rwhp with the turbo you will need appprox 120 lb injectors with a driver box for E85 and a larger pump then the A1000. Then again your motor and turbo would support quite a bit more than 800 rwhp. The 120s are good to around 900-1000 rwhp on E85 depending on your fuel pressure.


+1
I went with a mechanical pump to squeak a little more out of the 120# injectors.
I am shooting for similar power out of my setup on E85 BTW.
It is being tuned this week, so I will let you know how it turns out.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:27 PM
  #7  
Mike@Diablosport's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,295
Likes: 11
From: Central Florida
Default

V-Series Tech is planning an E85 TT set up for big power, and is going to use the new Magnafuel continuous duty 2000 HP pump, looks like it will be fun. (160# injectors/driver box)

I have to ask as others have, why such a low power goal? You could do that number on pump gas...and that monster turbo would barely be working at that power level.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:17 PM
  #8  
00ultraz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default

I'll push this motor as far as it can go...this is my first turbo build and i'm kinda worried about the patriot heads and the fact that the block isn't o-ringed...I got a good deal on the short block assembled and already had the heads, but i wanna build the rest of the setup to where if i decide to go with a stronger motor i won't have to change EVERYTHING.... if this motor makes a good bit more than that before pushing water and i'm happy then i'll leave it alone ....
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:27 PM
  #9  
00ultraz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default

what about racetronix 120# injectors, an aem driver, and a magnafuel 4301....
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:33 PM
  #10  
projectcam's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 296
Likes: 0
From: Mesa, Az
Default

Originally Posted by 00ultraz28
what about racetronix 120# injectors, an aem driver, and a magnafuel 4301....
You will need more pump than that. The injectors should be ok.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 10:35 AM
  #11  
NicD's Avatar
7 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,170
Likes: 690
From: Chandler, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by 00ultraz28
what about racetronix 120# injectors, an aem driver, and a magnafuel 4301....
You will need the 4303 for your goal.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:07 AM
  #12  
00ultraz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default

thanks for the help guys ... this is exactly tha info i needed ... so do you guys really think i'll be able to make a good bit more than 800 to the wheels with this motor and fuel setup safely
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:41 PM
  #13  
needaz28's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 349
Likes: 0
From: tucson
Default

couldnt u use 3 walbro's? I made up an alum. hat/ bottom bracket for mine. I would think 3 255'S would support 800 whp. if 2 are good to about 700, 3 should be good to 800 no problem. my stock fuel level still works too!
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2009 | 12:06 PM
  #14  
00ultraz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default

i would rather not have to worry about 3 pumps goin bad compared to just one ... i used to work at a hot rod shop and have built an aluminum tank for a roadster so i'll take a shot at building tha tank myself
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2009 | 07:27 PM
  #15  
needaz28's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 349
Likes: 0
From: tucson
Default

nice! I cant make my own tank, so I made up my own "hat trick"
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2009 | 07:36 PM
  #16  
E-Works's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: chicago
Default

i have 2 walboros on mine and my buddy made 983 rwhp on a twin 57 o3 cobra with twin walboro 255's

but one pump would be nicer forsure
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2009 | 07:46 PM
  #17  
XpEdItIoUs's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (44)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,658
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by E-Works
i have 2 walboros on mine and my buddy made 983 rwhp on a twin 57 o3 cobra with twin walboro 255's

but one pump would be nicer forsure
Are those numbers on E-85?
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2009 | 08:12 PM
  #18  
00ultraz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default

I know mighty mouse is using 2 still i think ... but he's running race gas and a methanol... I may think about running 3 walbros for now and selling that setup later for a big external..i think i can get away ALOT cheaper doing the walbros right now and if i'm not happy with it i'll change
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2009 | 09:14 PM
  #19  
black98ws6ta's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (77)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,107
Likes: 2
From: louisville,ky
Default

I have made 800 rwhp on e85 with 80 lb injectors and two 255 walbro pumps. The injectors were MAXXED though.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2009 | 09:47 PM
  #20  
00ultraz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default

the more i talk arond to people the more power i expect to make.... espescially once i go to better heads and better intake so i plan on really pushing this thing now... i may try the 3 walbros for now.. but i don't wanna have to be buying more injectors, so I'll go with some big injectors first... can you get too big of an injector... i noticed the bosch 160s on forced inductions site for 499 i think ...
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:55 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE