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Old 01-29-2012, 04:34 PM
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im upgrading to a set of 200lb injector or bigger this comming up summer. i seen these on ebay and i figured i see what people think. i have a aem injector box for my 120lb injectors. these are high imp so i can lose the aem box. are the high imp easier to program then the low with the injector box? and oh im thinking of switching to e85 thanks

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How much power are you looking to make? I would stick with the 2000cc's from FIC or ID. Ive used them and they work great. The Ebay ones only show min 2ms pulsewidth. I dont think that is low enough to idle very well but Im not a tuner.
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Five o motorsports carries the Bosch 220lbs. As long as you can get data for offsets, min pulsewidth info, and flow rates, you're good. IDs are expensive, yes, but if you've ever tried to tune with a big set of unpredictable, drippy low imp injectors, the extra cost is a drop in the bucket.

A typical 6.0 with a stockish cam and an 800 rpm idle @14.7afr will be .7ms-1.2ms
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You get what you pay for. Injector Dynamics come with all the data you need to tune it on whatever software you use. I just pulled the trigger on a set of ID2000s this weekend. I won't ever have to worry about maxing out injector. They idle like ****.

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DO NOT BUY THOSE INJECTORS. I bought a set of them for my setup and it was a nightmare. No data on them what so ever. They are just a re drilled flex fuel injector. So tuning them is almost impossible. I called every place possible to get any info on them and everyone told me to keep away from them. So I said screw it and went with FIC injectors and ID's are also really nice.
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ID Injectors are the way to go. Its the only injectors we use on out builds. They come with all the info to tune.
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My tuner was able to get the FIC 2000's working with no data. Agreed, they idle really good. FIC sells the same injector for less.
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The IDs are the only way to go, if you have the budget. While bosch injectors are similar, ID flows and tests ALL of their injectors, and Some of these do not meet their requirements.

2-3% variation on a 2000 cc injector is huge. This can mean a huge AFR swing because we do not have the ability to trim individual cylinders.
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There was a thread on this going back and forth a while ago.

Yes ID does dynamically test all their injectors while FIC only statically flows them (I think thats right?). Ive heard that ID's process is technically overkill for this application. I guess the customer has to decide if that extra $300 or so is worth the extra "testing". To me it was not.
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Originally Posted by LS1NOVA
My tuner was able to get the FIC 2000's working with no data. Agreed, they idle really good. FIC sells the same injector for less.
He had to of gotten some sort of data from somewhere. You're not just going to tune a 2200cc injector blind without having pulse width, offset, or flow rate data. And as Louis said, they're not the same.
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Originally Posted by westtexasbuff
He had to of gotten some sort of data from somewhere. You're not just going to tune a 2200cc injector blind without having pulse width, offset, or flow rate data. And as Louis said, they're not the same.
Are you speaking from experience or because that's what you read somewhere? With these new injectors, most of the time you can just throw them in, change the IFR, and it will run alright on stock injector data. Is this ideal? No way. Will it work? Sure will.

I've ordered twice from FIC and ID once. I've had good experiences with both companies to be honest. FIC (fuel injector connection, not clinic!) has amazing customer service. They answer my PM's at all times of day or night which really radiates well with me. ID has also been good to me, as I have been able to get a hold of both Tony and Paul whenever I've needed to.

If cost is a concern, FIC is definitely the way to go. In terms of 2000cc injectors, FIC is about $750 cheaper, a significant difference to a lot of people.

If money is no concern, ID definitely provides a plug n play solution as they will give you all the data you need to input into whatever tuning software you are using.

ID is definitely the popular brand to go with right now, but I think more people should give some of the other players in the game a chance and see for themselves if they are satisfied, or not.

Remember when there is competition the consumer ALWAYS wins.
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so who sells the cheapest 2200cc fic injector?

and how much hp can my 120lb injector hold on e85

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FIC is a company..... Fuel Injector Connection

http://fuelinjectorconnection.com/shop/



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