Tuning With 160# High Impdence injectors
08-28-2012, 04:44 PM
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i have the maf disabled i know for sure its not trying to read off it.
here is the link to my exact injectors....
http://boschdealer.com/index.php?mai...products_id=47
they are bosch 160s and like i said they are doing OKAY but not suitable for me i need it to idle in the 14s.. i had my 80#s dead on with the tune. but these are a different story.
here is the link to my exact injectors....
http://boschdealer.com/index.php?mai...products_id=47
they are bosch 160s and like i said they are doing OKAY but not suitable for me i need it to idle in the 14s.. i had my 80#s dead on with the tune. but these are a different story.
08-28-2012, 06:54 PM
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i have the maf disabled i know for sure its not trying to read off it.
here is the link to my exact injectors....
http://boschdealer.com/index.php?mai...products_id=47
they are bosch 160s and like i said they are doing OKAY but not suitable for me i need it to idle in the 14s.. i had my 80#s dead on with the tune. but these are a different story.
here is the link to my exact injectors....
http://boschdealer.com/index.php?mai...products_id=47
they are bosch 160s and like i said they are doing OKAY but not suitable for me i need it to idle in the 14s.. i had my 80#s dead on with the tune. but these are a different story.
08-28-2012, 10:10 PM
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I dont believe ID sells an injector that size.
The graphs are not what suprised me.
The first pages of that pdf is what suprised me.
Look at the pdf.
http://boschdealer.com/specsheets/bosch827specsheet.pdf
Than look here.
http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID1000.html
Compare the two starting at " Explanation of Dynamic Flow Graphs".
Direct copy. That kind of thing makes me question the validity of the rest of the data in that pdf.
08-29-2012, 07:45 AM
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i have the maf disabled i know for sure its not trying to read off it.
here is the link to my exact injectors....
http://boschdealer.com/index.php?mai...products_id=47
they are bosch 160s and like i said they are doing OKAY but not suitable for me i need it to idle in the 14s.. i had my 80#s dead on with the tune. but these are a different story.
here is the link to my exact injectors....
http://boschdealer.com/index.php?mai...products_id=47
they are bosch 160s and like i said they are doing OKAY but not suitable for me i need it to idle in the 14s.. i had my 80#s dead on with the tune. but these are a different story.
08-29-2012, 11:09 AM
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HURRY HURRY EVERYONE COPY ID!!!!! take all of their website information and copy it all and save it, then post it all over the internet.
wait for cease and desist letters. There was a Bosch 160....if you google search and look them up all you will find is nothing but problems, so I *think they canned them
wait for cease and desist letters. There was a Bosch 160....if you google search and look them up all you will find is nothing but problems, so I *think they canned them
I understand what the graphs in the pdf mean.
I dont believe ID sells an injector that size.
The graphs are not what suprised me.
The first pages of that pdf is what suprised me.
Look at the pdf.
http://boschdealer.com/specsheets/bosch827specsheet.pdf
Than look here.
http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID1000.html
Compare the two starting at " Explanation of Dynamic Flow Graphs".
Direct copy. That kind of thing makes me question the validity of the rest of the data in that pdf.
I dont believe ID sells an injector that size.
The graphs are not what suprised me.
The first pages of that pdf is what suprised me.
Look at the pdf.
http://boschdealer.com/specsheets/bosch827specsheet.pdf
Than look here.
http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID1000.html
Compare the two starting at " Explanation of Dynamic Flow Graphs".
Direct copy. That kind of thing makes me question the validity of the rest of the data in that pdf.
08-29-2012, 04:44 PM
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HURRY HURRY EVERYONE COPY ID!!!!! take all of their website information and copy it all and save it, then post it all over the internet.
wait for cease and desist letters. There was a Bosch 160....if you google search and look them up all you will find is nothing but problems, so I *think they canned them
wait for cease and desist letters. There was a Bosch 160....if you google search and look them up all you will find is nothing but problems, so I *think they canned them
The copy and paste of the ID header with their watermark in the back round in a BS move.
If you publish or create something would you not be mad if some copied it did for their profit?
I know I would because it has happened to me. I made parts to improve something. Sent some out to several shops to test. Only to have one shop copy and market them as there own.
It appears your fine with that as long you get parts cheap as a result of some elses work.
If your work was copied and marketed as some elses you would be pissed to.
08-29-2012, 08:38 PM
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the b/s i hear about these being garabage injectors is false. I know people running the **** out of these injectors and literally there 1000+ hp street car drive like bone stock with these identical injectors.
matter of fact here is a log file from a buddies car with these injectors. car starts up and idle/ drives like stock. till it hits boost and its a dif story
matter of fact here is a log file from a buddies car with these injectors. car starts up and idle/ drives like stock. till it hits boost and its a dif story
08-29-2012, 10:55 PM
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I'm looking in your .hpt file in post #12...
I see your IFR table set to 6.93 g/s (55 lb/hr)...
if your injectors are rated to flow 160 lb/hr @ 43.5 psi and your FPR is set to 43.5 psi (measured with reference hose removed), then shouldn't your IFR table be set to something like 20.2 g/s (160 lb/hr)...?
if the IFR is understated then the PCM will open the injectors for a longer period to meet commanded AFR.
I see your IFR table set to 6.93 g/s (55 lb/hr)...
if your injectors are rated to flow 160 lb/hr @ 43.5 psi and your FPR is set to 43.5 psi (measured with reference hose removed), then shouldn't your IFR table be set to something like 20.2 g/s (160 lb/hr)...?
if the IFR is understated then the PCM will open the injectors for a longer period to meet commanded AFR.
08-30-2012, 07:44 AM
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always check your units. Your HPTuners IFR table I think is in LB/HR. this entire table should be set to 160, as at 43.5psi your injectors are 160LB/hr.
MAKE SURE YOUR FPR is set to 43.5psi or damn close. Fuel pressure gauge helps.
short pulse limit needs to be 3.5
see attached excel sheet.
did you get your MAF situation fixed? so the car runs in SD mode now?
MAKE SURE YOUR FPR is set to 43.5psi or damn close. Fuel pressure gauge helps.
short pulse limit needs to be 3.5
see attached excel sheet.
did you get your MAF situation fixed? so the car runs in SD mode now?
08-30-2012, 02:02 PM
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