Fueling & Injection Fuel Pumps | Injectors | Rails | Regulators | Tanks

octane & duration ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 13, 2018 | 03:02 AM
  #1  
ls1 trex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default octane & duration ?

hi guys

i want to know about duration

is it true ?

low duration means needs more octane

high duration means needs low octane
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2018 | 07:57 AM
  #2  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

Duration of what?
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2018 | 08:23 AM
  #3  
ls1 trex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default

for camshaft
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2018 | 08:28 AM
  #4  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

Not with the cams that we run for our cars
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2018 | 09:05 AM
  #5  
ls1 trex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default

like this simple

is it that cam shaft

225/236 .629"/.615"

need more octane than

235/248 .649"/.615"
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2018 | 09:09 AM
  #6  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

Nope it's not going to make hardly any difference all on its own
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2018 | 10:12 AM
  #7  
.boB's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 897
Likes: 33
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Default

Originally Posted by ls1 trex
hi guys

i want to know about duration

is it true ?

low duration means needs more octane

high duration means needs low octane
Sort of. More duration means the intake valve is open longer, and usually means it closes later in the cycle. That means it will increase dynamic compression and cylinder pressure. That's kinda the point, because that's how you make power. To prevent detonation, you would want to use a higher octane fuel.

But as said above, the example you've given in an otherwise stock engine probably won't be a big enough change to matter all by itself.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2018 | 12:05 PM
  #8  
pantera_efi's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,155
Likes: 18
From: Santa Ana, CA. USA
Default Cylinder Pressure = BMEP

Hi Trex, I agree with your observation due to changes in cylinder pressure as stated above.

The engine will compress the Air/Fuel AND HEAT this mixture from compression energy input.
The hotter the mixture, the more octane is required to prevent Pre-Ignition.

UNDERSTAND this effect is RPM related.

Lance
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 14, 2018 | 12:17 PM
  #9  
Crf450r420's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,099
Likes: 5
From: Florida
Default

Look up dynamic compression and that will help show you see how that is correct. The closer the intake closes to BDC the move volume that is compressed in the cylinder and the more that will heat up when compressed.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2018 | 11:26 PM
  #10  
ls1 trex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default

thanks guys ,,
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2020 | 09:54 PM
  #11  
qwiketz's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 235
Likes: 1
Default

any updates on this one? I just paid about $12.xx a gallon for sunoco 260 plus... Wondering if this is really pricey or basically the norm these days.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:48 PM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE