Fueling & Injection Fuel Pumps | Injectors | Rails | Regulators | Tanks

**UPDATED** Fuel pressure dropping on boost referenced setup.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 06:15 AM
  #21  
TrendSetter's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,178
Likes: 627
From: Florida
Default

or your wiring is weak
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 06:28 AM
  #22  
Old Buzzard's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,065
Likes: 476
From: Bostwick, GA.
Default

"Thats called a wire tap. Its for logging my fuel pressure. works perfect."
I am fully aware of what it is and what happens when it's used. We see that kind of stuff on a daily basis.
That, and 6 different gauge/color wires complete with multiple butt splices in a 6' run.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 07:45 AM
  #23  
ddnspider's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

Im a little curious why the twin 255's had the same issue if the 525 is weak....but I did suggest installing the BAP in the other thread .
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 08:17 AM
  #24  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Originally Posted by TrendSetter
or your wiring is weak
Nope. 10 gauge from the alternator to the relay, 10 gauge from the relay to the pump. 10 gauge ground.
Confirmed by checking voltage at the pump at idle at WOT. 13.7V at WOT without the BAP.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 08:22 AM
  #25  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Originally Posted by Old Buzzard
"Thats called a wire tap. Its for logging my fuel pressure. works perfect."
I am fully aware of what it is and what happens when it's used. We see that kind of stuff on a daily basis.
That, and 6 different gauge/color wires complete with multiple butt splices in a 6' run.
Your right, I'll change the color of the wiring. That'll fix my fp issue.

I'll make a bet with you, I'll change whatever you like with my wiring and I bet $100 it wont make a difference. I'll PayPal you 100 cash if the issue goes away.

Last edited by 30th t/a; Jun 1, 2023 at 08:46 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 08:37 AM
  #26  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Originally Posted by ddnspider
Im a little curious why the twin 255's had the same issue if the 525 is weak....but I did suggest installing the BAP in the other thread .
Yes you did suggest that

The 255s, initially had about 10psi more pressure than the 535, but pressure on both setups dropped by the end of the pull.
From the people I talk to and what I read, Both setups are supposed to be good for 700 on e85.

The BAP tells me the regulator, stock Corvette rails, fuel lines, fuel filter are working.
The wiring has been redone, checked with a meter and checked out good. That tells me I'm outta pump. Either the pump is weak or I'm making alot more power than I thought I was. I had it on the dyno so I know what its putting down.

Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 10:50 AM
  #27  
No Juice's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,503
Likes: 19
From: Minnesota Corn Fields
Default

I didn't think the 535 was good to 700 without the BAP.? How far will the BAP go, you think ?
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 01:18 PM
  #28  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Originally Posted by No Juice
I didn't think the 535 was good to 700 without the BAP.? How far will the BAP go, you think ?
Chris Johnson is who I bought the pump from He claims 700-725rwhp by itself.

I'm not sure how far a BAP will take it but through out this process, I've been talking to a guy that runs a 525 pump with a BAP and hes at 820/800. That's on e85 with bosch 1000cc injectors. Stock z06 rails 8an feed, 6an return.

Another guy I was talking to has the 535 pump and 80lb injectors and says hes at 750.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 01:22 PM
  #29  
TrendSetter's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,178
Likes: 627
From: Florida
Default

forced induction vehicles are far too complex systems to make blanket statements like "'walbro 535 handles 700hp on e85"' reliably.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2023 | 01:25 PM
  #30  
Old Buzzard's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,065
Likes: 476
From: Bostwick, GA.
Default

"I didn't think the 535 was good to 700 without the BAP.? How far will the BAP go, you think ?"
According to these specs it's not.


Walbro 535LPH F90000295 Fuel Pump - (Universal E85 Ethanol) Ultra High-Performance - TI Automotive (walbrofuelpumps.com)

"Your right, I'll change the color of the wiring. That'll fix my fp issue."
No suggestion that your wire colors are an issue. I made reference as to what we find in our shop.
As for the Scotchlok....
I made a suggestion for a test to confirm the rails were not the issue. Do with that whatever, I could care less.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2023 | 02:44 PM
  #31  
No Juice's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,503
Likes: 19
From: Minnesota Corn Fields
Default

30th t/a - any new info to share ?
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2023 | 10:57 AM
  #32  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Originally Posted by No Juice
30th t/a - any new info to share ?
Yes - the BAP did not solve the issue like I originally thought. Yesterday, I did a wot pull to 6000 and fuel pressure dropped to 53psi and I was at 13psi of boost.

Last edited by 30th t/a; Jun 10, 2023 at 11:44 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2023 | 02:56 PM
  #33  
LilJayV10's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (39)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,711
Likes: 999
From: Evansville,IN
Default

When you are checking voltage at WOT.

Are you just checking the voltage or doing a voltage drop test? I ask because there is a big difference between the two and most people don't even know what the second one is.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2023 | 04:50 PM
  #34  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Originally Posted by LilJayV10
When you are checking voltage at WOT.

Are you just checking the voltage or doing a voltage drop test? I ask because there is a big difference between the two and most people don't even know what the second one is.
I checked voltage at WOT and voltage drop at idle. Checking voltage,I just attach the negative lead to the negative on the battery and the the positive on the power wire, in the back of the connector that goes into the bulkhead. Voltage stayed at 13.7.
Voltage drop power readings were .50-.56, Voltage drop negative readings were .29-.32
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2023 | 12:54 PM
  #35  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Putting 20psi of compressed air to the regulator, I Found this today. After I wrapped the screw with teflon tap, I took it for a 4th gear wot pull, 5900 rpm seeing 12.9psi of boost, fuel pressure was at 60.34psi.
Compared to the other day, 4th wot pull, 5900 rpm boost was 13.1 and fuel pressure was 52.86psi.



Last edited by 30th t/a; Jun 11, 2023 at 08:26 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2023 | 01:33 PM
  #36  
Old Buzzard's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,065
Likes: 476
From: Bostwick, GA.
Default

That hose clamp is way too big for that vac line. The clamp, when screwed down that far, will distort and not apply even pressure all around the hose. Maybe try the soapy water there, too.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2023 | 03:04 PM
  #37  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Originally Posted by Old Buzzard
That hose clamp is way too big for that vac line. The clamp, when screwed down that far, will distort and not apply even pressure all around the hose. Maybe try the soapy water there, too.
Agreed. Im doing that next.
The vacuum line fits perfectly on the intake manifold port but not the hose fitting supplied with the regulator. That fitting that came with the regulator is very thin.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2023 | 03:06 PM
  #38  
30th t/a's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

Originally Posted by Old Buzzard
That hose clamp is way too big for that vac line. The clamp, when screwed down that far, will distort and not apply even pressure all around the hose. Maybe try the soapy water there, too.
Agreed. Im doing that next.
The vacuum line fits perfectly on the intake manifold port but not the hose fitting supplied with the regulator. That fitting that came with the regulator is very thin.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2023 | 04:07 PM
  #39  
Old Buzzard's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,065
Likes: 476
From: Bostwick, GA.
Default

In the "FWIW" dept, I work on turbo Buicks, and we use the small black zip ties on all vac hoses.
We use a small flush edge wire cutter to snip the excess tail on the zip tie. That cuts it flush with the slip end of the tie, so you don't get the famous "aw ****" cuts that zip ties are known for.
These work well...
BOENFU Wire Cutters Zip Tie Cutters Micro Flush Cutter 2 Pack 5 in Precision Wire Clippers Hobby Snips Small Side Cutting Pliers for Jewelry Making, Electronics, Red - - Amazon.com BOENFU Wire Cutters Zip Tie Cutters Micro Flush Cutter 2 Pack 5 in Precision Wire Clippers Hobby Snips Small Side Cutting Pliers for Jewelry Making, Electronics, Red - - Amazon.com
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2023 | 04:51 PM
  #40  
ddnspider's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by ddnspider
ah firewall was blocking the pic. It may be worth trying a different regulator given that you tried different pumps.
close enough 🤣🤣🤣
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:01 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE