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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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I have a 99 ws6. mods in sig. I had heard that the stock injectors(26 lbs in 99) would be good to 400 rwhp. A couple weeks ago I dyno'd on a dynomax(compareable to a mustang dyno) and put down 355 to the wheels , unlocked converter, but my stock injectors were at 100% duty cycle at wot at 5600 rpms and above. I upgraded to 30 lb injectors and the duty cycle dropped to around 80%. So I guess I ran out of injector, but why at such a low hp figure? I know that autos dyno higher with the converter locked, and the shop told me that dynojets dyno about 10% higher so does that mean I may have 400 rwhp on a dynojet with a locked converter? duty cycle DOES rise with hp right?
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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I have a 99 ws6. mods in sig. I had heard that the stock injectors(26 lbs in 99) would be good to 400 rwhp. A couple weeks ago I dyno'd on a dynomax(compareable to a mustang dyno) and put down 355 to the wheels , unlocked converter, but my stock injectors were at 100% duty cycle at wot at 5600 rpms and above. I upgraded to 30 lb injectors and the duty cycle dropped to around 80%. So I guess I ran out of injector, but why at such a low hp figure? I know that autos dyno higher with the converter locked, and the shop told me that dynojets dyno about 10% higher so does that mean I may have 400 rwhp on a dynojet with a locked converter? duty cycle DOES rise with hp right?
What scan tool or edit told you about the duty cycle? Your mods (h/c) are
moving some serious air. Have you checked fuel pressure after 30svo's?
It proves that Stock injectors are inadequate. How did car run after the in-
jector change? You should be able to tell the difference.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 04:28 AM
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The tuning tule was hptuners, and no I did not check the fuel pressure after the 30 lbers were swapped in. The horsepower figure didnt change after the swap, but yeah, the car feels alot better on the street. I am getting it dyno'd 6/13 on a dynojet. we will see what a difference a dyno makes, I guess.
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Old Jun 11, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nasty99WS6
The tuning tule was hptuners, and no I did not check the fuel pressure after the 30 lbers were swapped in. The horsepower figure didnt change after the swap, but yeah, the car feels alot better on the street. I am getting it dyno'd 6/13 on a dynojet. we will see what a difference a dyno makes, I guess.
If you can feel the difference you're going to be happy w/dyno#s. My 2002SS
w/30#svo's are pretty close to 80%. Mine's a m6 and I'm over the 400hp so
should be no problem w/yours.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Maybe the HP is measured at the crank for injector size!!?? If your making 358 at the wheels then you might be around 400 at the crank. Just a thought!
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My car makes 400/395 to the wheels and my injecotrs are at 105% right now.
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stock injectors??
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Originally Posted by stang killer
My car makes 400/395 to the wheels and my injecotrs are at 105% right now.
well, the guy dyno'd my car in 2nd i know iknow. but anyway, they told me the correct number, had it been run in 3rd, was 374 rwhp. 30 lb injectors will be good for awhile i suppose.
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why did the guy dyno in second gear? less load on engine, maybe?
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by slowpoke96z28
why did the guy dyno in second gear? less load on engine, maybe?
he was not capable of locking it in 3rd.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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internet myths suck. if you don't measure it yoruself, you will never know the truth.
i got up to 109% DC on stock 99 injectors on a really minimal setup, now i'm up to 85% DC on svo30s with 363rwhp
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
internet myths suck. if you don't measure it yoruself, you will never know the truth.
i got up to 109% DC on stock 99 injectors on a really minimal setup, now i'm up to 85% DC on svo30s with 363rwhp
ditto, except i am at like 80% dc.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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i have stock injectors but i have a 6spd ws6...my fuel pressure is higher than yalls..at least thats the rumor..I have measure my fuel pressure and I'm running 48psi and i have the stock injectors dynoed 374HP and 396TQ...duty cycle is 73% ONLY because i leaned the car out and turned off the cat converter protection that was causing my car to go rich at WOT. before leaning my car out my injectors were running 82%. they say to stay under 80% duty cycle to stay safe(not go static)..but whatever.

I'm getting ready to to hook up an air to fuel gauge and find out exactly what I'm running. On the dyno i was going from 13.4:1 to 12.1:1 at high rpm..that has changed now..I'm running about a 13.0 at high rpm

I have 32lb/hr injectors sittin in the garage waitin to be installed and i'm not going to get those in until i do a cam swap
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ZL1Killa
...my fuel pressure is higher than yalls..at least thats the rumor..I have measure my fuel pressure and I'm running 48psi
My car showed 57psi - 60psi across the board. That fuel pressure on yours seems a little low.
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