fuel system
fuel system ok guys. i am goint to turbo my car(01ws6)it has 402 iron block,fast 90/90combo.. i will be going with 88mm turbos s series from forcedinductions. i was wonder what fuel system should i run and whats the price i should expext to pay. i am looking for a complete fuel system.
There are a bunch of different answers to that question. What hp level will make a huge difference.
1. 625rwhp max = 60lb injectors, stock lines/rails, dual Walbro intank....some get by with a single Walbro and a BAP.
2. 625-850rwhp I would get serious and make a decision on keeping the stock ecm or go aftermarket. If you stay with a stock ecm you need twin high pressure fuel pumps so you can boost reference the injectors. I would use twin Bosch 420 pumps , 60lb Mototrons (some like the 72/75 injectors), some type of custom tank work....either sump a factory 1998 steel tank and run the pumps external or look at Nates custom aluminum tank with twin A600 Weldon pumps or the Bosch pumps...all external. Dedicated -8AN feed line. -6AN return line...I'm partial to Harris Speed Works for the fuel lines since they do Teflon and it will not break down over time like the rubber lines. Weldon front mount pressure regulator. Aftermarket rails and a filter. A rough "High Estimate"
1. Tank...Nate aluminum ~$500 - $600
2. Dual pumps $600 - $700
3. Lines and fittings $300
4. Weldon regulator $215
5. Rails $150 - $190
6. Mototrons $425
7. Filter $75 - $125
Roughly $1840 to $2200 plus throw in $300 for extras.
1. 625rwhp max = 60lb injectors, stock lines/rails, dual Walbro intank....some get by with a single Walbro and a BAP.
2. 625-850rwhp I would get serious and make a decision on keeping the stock ecm or go aftermarket. If you stay with a stock ecm you need twin high pressure fuel pumps so you can boost reference the injectors. I would use twin Bosch 420 pumps , 60lb Mototrons (some like the 72/75 injectors), some type of custom tank work....either sump a factory 1998 steel tank and run the pumps external or look at Nates custom aluminum tank with twin A600 Weldon pumps or the Bosch pumps...all external. Dedicated -8AN feed line. -6AN return line...I'm partial to Harris Speed Works for the fuel lines since they do Teflon and it will not break down over time like the rubber lines. Weldon front mount pressure regulator. Aftermarket rails and a filter. A rough "High Estimate"
1. Tank...Nate aluminum ~$500 - $600
2. Dual pumps $600 - $700
3. Lines and fittings $300
4. Weldon regulator $215
5. Rails $150 - $190
6. Mototrons $425
7. Filter $75 - $125
Roughly $1840 to $2200 plus throw in $300 for extras.
I told you yesterday at the shop *** 
AHAHAHAHA And now you call me on the phone. What a trip. You will need to go over it with nate. But I do reconmend two pumps and 95 # injectors. This car is going to be a monster 
We are still going to race and yes you have to drive it 
Here goes.
Nasty Performance 99-02 F-body Fuel tank 529.99
Bungs for fuel pump mount on tank 40.00
Nasty Performance LS1 fuel rails 175.99
Weldon Fuel filters 10 micron and 40 micron 2 = 171.98 You will need two of each since were going to be over 1K at the wheels Jessie.
-8 braided line-20feet 145.99 = Talk this over with Nate. Since the E boost will control the extra pump when needed.
Weldon 600A pump 419.99 x2 LOL Maybe we can get away with a Boost a pump?
SX regulator w/ boost reference 165.99
-6 braided return line 20feet 115.99
Misc. fittings and parts 229.99
Hot wire kit 30.00
AHAHAHAHA And now you call me on the phone. What a trip. You will need to go over it with nate. But I do reconmend two pumps and 95 # injectors. This car is going to be a monster We are still going to race and yes you have to drive it Here goes.Nasty Performance 99-02 F-body Fuel tank 529.99
Bungs for fuel pump mount on tank 40.00
Nasty Performance LS1 fuel rails 175.99
Weldon Fuel filters 10 micron and 40 micron 2 = 171.98 You will need two of each since were going to be over 1K at the wheels Jessie.
-8 braided line-20feet 145.99 = Talk this over with Nate. Since the E boost will control the extra pump when needed.
Weldon 600A pump 419.99 x2 LOL
Maybe we can get away with a Boost a pump?SX regulator w/ boost reference 165.99
-6 braided return line 20feet 115.99
Misc. fittings and parts 229.99
Hot wire kit 30.00
Last edited by JMBLOWNWS6; Feb 3, 2006 at 05:26 PM.
??? 1000[+] at the wheels is going to be close to 1200FWHP. At that level, an injector rated at 100PPH is required to cover the FWHP, at 90% DC.
I'd suggest you look at 120's, and have room to move.. You know that the initial HP level will not satisfy you for very long...
I'd suggest you look at 120's, and have room to move.. You know that the initial HP level will not satisfy you for very long...
Originally Posted by Old Geezer
1000[+] at the wheels is going to be close to 1200FWHP. At that level, an injector rated at 100PPH is required to cover the FWHP, at 90% DC.
I'd suggest you look at 120's, and have room to move.. You know that the initial HP level will not satisfy you for very long...
I'd suggest you look at 120's, and have room to move.. You know that the initial HP level will not satisfy you for very long...
Me and my partner in crime are going to have fun tuning that I figure we can try and stop 850 RWHP untill Jmeister gets more $ to go the rest of the way with a stand aloneEngine management and the piggy back harness so we retain the stock gauge cluster. Which Id rather build from scratch then pay $700 for one
Which by that time I wil need the 95# ers for my future plans 
and he can buy the 120's
Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
I told you yesterday at the shop *** AHAHAHAHA And now you call me on the phone. What a trip. You will need to go over it with nate. But I do reconmend two pumps and 95 # injectors. This car is going to be a monster We are still going to race and yes you have to drive it Here goes.
Nasty Performance 99-02 F-body Fuel tank 529.99
Bungs for fuel pump mount on tank 40.00
Nasty Performance LS1 fuel rails 175.99
Weldon Fuel filters 10 micron and 40 micron 2 = 171.98 You will need two of each since were going to be over 1K at the wheels Jessie.
-8 braided line-20feet 145.99 = Talk this over with Nate. Since the E boost will control the extra pump when needed.
Weldon 600A pump 419.99 x2 LOL Maybe we can get away with a Boost a pump?
SX regulator w/ boost reference 165.99
-6 braided return line 20feet 115.99
Misc. fittings and parts 229.99
Hot wire kit 30.00
AHAHAHAHA And now you call me on the phone. What a trip. You will need to go over it with nate. But I do reconmend two pumps and 95 # injectors. This car is going to be a monster We are still going to race and yes you have to drive it Here goes.Nasty Performance 99-02 F-body Fuel tank 529.99
Bungs for fuel pump mount on tank 40.00
Nasty Performance LS1 fuel rails 175.99
Weldon Fuel filters 10 micron and 40 micron 2 = 171.98 You will need two of each since were going to be over 1K at the wheels Jessie.
-8 braided line-20feet 145.99 = Talk this over with Nate. Since the E boost will control the extra pump when needed.
Weldon 600A pump 419.99 x2 LOL
Maybe we can get away with a Boost a pump?SX regulator w/ boost reference 165.99
-6 braided return line 20feet 115.99
Misc. fittings and parts 229.99
Hot wire kit 30.00
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
I told you yesterday at the shop *** AHAHAHAHA And now you call me on the phone. What a trip. You will need to go over it with nate. But I do reconmend two pumps and 95 # injectors. This car is going to be a monster We are still going to race and yes you have to drive it Here goes.
Nasty Performance 99-02 F-body Fuel tank 529.99
Bungs for fuel pump mount on tank 40.00
Nasty Performance LS1 fuel rails 175.99
Weldon Fuel filters 10 micron and 40 micron 2 = 171.98 You will need two of each since were going to be over 1K at the wheels Jessie.
-8 braided line-20feet 145.99 = Talk this over with Nate. Since the E boost will control the extra pump when needed.
Weldon 600A pump 419.99 x2 LOL Maybe we can get away with a Boost a pump?
SX regulator w/ boost reference 165.99
-6 braided return line 20feet 115.99
Misc. fittings and parts 229.99
Hot wire kit 30.00
AHAHAHAHA And now you call me on the phone. What a trip. You will need to go over it with nate. But I do reconmend two pumps and 95 # injectors. This car is going to be a monster We are still going to race and yes you have to drive it Here goes.Nasty Performance 99-02 F-body Fuel tank 529.99
Bungs for fuel pump mount on tank 40.00
Nasty Performance LS1 fuel rails 175.99
Weldon Fuel filters 10 micron and 40 micron 2 = 171.98 You will need two of each since were going to be over 1K at the wheels Jessie.
-8 braided line-20feet 145.99 = Talk this over with Nate. Since the E boost will control the extra pump when needed.
Weldon 600A pump 419.99 x2 LOL
Maybe we can get away with a Boost a pump?SX regulator w/ boost reference 165.99
-6 braided return line 20feet 115.99
Misc. fittings and parts 229.99
Hot wire kit 30.00
Wow thanks you hit it on the head. Let me know your exact specs and power and I have several diffeent setups I have been working on for different levels. Let me know I wil shoot you a quote.
Nate
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Verdad Gallardo Ya it looks sick! I like the filters. I bet you had a hell of a time with weldon 
Ill have the motor and the fuel system in by tomorrow night I hope. Still have alot of loose ends to tie up. But like you said to me on the phone. Dont skimp on the fuel system. I am SO GLAD I didnt buy the other system I was talking to you about. It was great. When I opened the box all the guys were like dayummmmmmmmmm. Thats some nice stuff! Hopefully I can show alot of people at the shop the system and get you some more sales!
One happy *** customer right now!
Joe M
Ill have the motor and the fuel system in by tomorrow night I hope. Still have alot of loose ends to tie up. But like you said to me on the phone. Dont skimp on the fuel system. I am SO GLAD I didnt buy the other system I was talking to you about. It was great. When I opened the box all the guys were like dayummmmmmmmmm. Thats some nice stuff! Hopefully I can show alot of people at the shop the system and get you some more sales!One happy *** customer right now!
Joe M
