MNC5

Ever heard of MTBE?... CH3OC(CH3)3 It's what was in your gas

Ethanol?................... CH3CH2OH


I'm a fan of Ethanol, but using it does require measures not needed for gasoline. But it sure as heck isn't anything to be scared of...lol

98Z28MASS

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Well after talking to a few people it seems that with the enthanol mix you cant throw as much timing at a car as before. Mine was tuned on the ethanol mix and the cam in my sig and the max it could be safely run on was about 20 degrees or so of timing as opposed to 24-26 degrees timing that usually can be run on the old 93 octane. Other than that I dont see it being a huge problem, just if you have a custom tune and it is very aggressive then you might need to get retuned and have the timing backed down a bit or it could run lean. Thats what ive seen at least.

Steel Chicken

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wow, someone should have told the state of colorado 30 years ago to not start to using ethanol blends...im pretty sure the world would have stopped otherwise.

chrs1313

iTrader: (24)

All i care about is that ethanol has made me some major money in the stock market in the last few months...if you guys want some winners look at adm & peix(peix has double in the last 3 months...so if you invested 10k 3 months ago you would have 20k today for doing nothing

also check out the graph for CAT in the last year you will **** yourself

ZL1Killa

iTrader: (17)

don't even bring up stocks....

back in the day google.... hahahaha yep google...

now look at it...**** doubling...forget trippling....try a really weird word for that one..

NHRAMAN

iTrader: (1)

we only have one company that adds Ethanol..and only 6%. I never go to them..

Cheatin' Chad

iTrader: (3)

Ever use HEET? It's made fom ALCOHOL. It is intended as a "water remover". Ethanol is a form of ALCOHOL.

hy·gro·scop·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hgr-skpk)
adj.
Readily absorbing moisture, as from the atmosphere

Brake fluid does this as well.

Condensation forms in your fuel tank during temperature changes in the form of condensation. This is usually mixed in with your fuel over time and winds up in your engine.

RELAX people it's not that big of a deal. You're supposed to be serious enthusiasts. Do some research before telling people the sky is falling. If the sky is in fact falling present us with this evidence so we can all go apeshit with you.

cvp33

Research and facts here: http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answ...p/veedere10.doc

Never said sky was falling, just warned that current methods used to test for water in VA fuel stations were inadequate. Several stations in our area have pumped water into customer's tanks. If your state hasn't recently converted to ethanol, than probably no worries. If you live in VA or pass through VA, be careful. We all converted within the last 30 days. Some stations are still not up to speed on the new protocols.

waterbug1999

iTrader: (3)

So no Ethanol = good?

cvp33

Short answer is yes. No ethanol is a good thing. The presence of ethanol though will be an issue for all of us as pressure is mounting to "federalize" gas formulation. This will happen and soon. We'll all be running 10% to 15% ethanol in the next 2 to 4 years.

MNC5

I hope we are running a he11 of a lot more than 10-15% in the next couple of years. The economic benefit of growing fuel is enormous. If BioMass ethanol becomes a actuality soon it will drastically change our economic structure i.e. it would be good for hot rodding

waterbug1999

iTrader: (3)

Cool, there is a Shell down the street that sales gas at one pump with no ethanol.. All the way up to 110 I think.

LSs1Power

iTrader: (5)

Great!!! Just what my poor stock bottom end needs now.... Would running Alky injection help in this situation?

white2001s10

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10% ethanol has been in many pumps since the early 90's.
Funny how people seem to be just now noticing it.

Also notice how the price for 10 gallons of pure gasoline is the same as the price for 10 gallons of 10% ethanol gasoline.
You're paying full gasoline price for a gallon of "corn alcohol" which should cost in the neighborhood of just $1.00
...also save a big .30 cents per gallon for E85

How does everyone feel about that?

chrs1313

iTrader: (24)

Peix stock is up another 7 percent today has anyone taken my advice yet.... if you didn't

8100hammer

Ethanol or E85 is a good thing for us hot rodding folks, with a E85 "based" engine build-up or E85 based FI setup there more torque to be had. Cause you make better use of the airmass that engine pulls which is predetermind.

I am 29, Can not even remember seeing non-ethonal mixed, if you ever driver though the midwest, you be hard press to find straight gas.

2MuchRiceMakesMeSick

All of your information is wrong.

PEXI has been on the decline for the past 6 months
http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quo...2Fintchart.asp

ADM has pulled back quiet a bit also
http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quo...2Fintchart.asp

CAT actually down for the year. if you had an entry point on the 52week low you would be up at MOST 12 points which is pretty poor performance for a years time
http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quo...&freq=1&time=8

The reality is that ethanol is a terrible investment for now because they cannot transport it.