Nasty tank and Magnafuel 4303 install pics
08-02-2006, 02:40 AM
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Nasty tank and Magnafuel 4303 install pics Started this at noon and didnt get done until 2am and already had the stock tank out - lot of freaking work 
Biggest pain was I couldnt find a sender to work right so I was able to reprogram the pcm and get it to work OK with a 0-90 ohm sender which will work out better if I do away with the stock PCM/wiring and use an aftermarket gas gauge.
I used an old RCI fuel cell rollover valve/vent (the tank I have is an older one that used the 99+ fuel module) that I put in the top and the elbow is above the filler neck, should be fine..
Only real comment is this pump is pretty loud, doesnt really matter to me as long as it works OK. Another thing is it uses some current so dont be stingy on the wire. I just used one of the 10ga wires from my old dual pump setup and the wire got pretty warm after about 10 minutes, so I used both relays with two 10 ga wires and a 6ga ground wire.
Tank fit well, pretty happy with the whole setup except I wish the tank was a little better baffled but the sump is pretty low so it should be OK. Too late to start it but I'll see how it does tomorrow at keeping the pressure up compared to the dual walbros I had..
Biggest pain was I couldnt find a sender to work right so I was able to reprogram the pcm and get it to work OK with a 0-90 ohm sender which will work out better if I do away with the stock PCM/wiring and use an aftermarket gas gauge.I used an old RCI fuel cell rollover valve/vent (the tank I have is an older one that used the 99+ fuel module) that I put in the top and the elbow is above the filler neck, should be fine..
Only real comment is this pump is pretty loud, doesnt really matter to me as long as it works OK. Another thing is it uses some current so dont be stingy on the wire. I just used one of the 10ga wires from my old dual pump setup and the wire got pretty warm after about 10 minutes, so I used both relays with two 10 ga wires and a 6ga ground wire.
Tank fit well, pretty happy with the whole setup except I wish the tank was a little better baffled but the sump is pretty low so it should be OK. Too late to start it but I'll see how it does tomorrow at keeping the pressure up compared to the dual walbros I had..
08-02-2006, 04:08 AM
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Good pic's, keep us updated on how this works out for you. There aren't many good fuel system alternatives once the power level goes past 600 rwhp, and none are cheap... Bob
08-02-2006, 08:28 AM
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Cool way to mount it on the panhard bar.
Centroid Products can make any ohm sender any length that actually works for $60. All electric...just an aluminum tube.
BTW somebody stole your shocks.
Centroid Products can make any ohm sender any length that actually works for $60. All electric...just an aluminum tube.
BTW somebody stole your shocks.
08-02-2006, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by onfire
Cool way to mount it on the panhard bar.
Centroid Products can make any ohm sender any length that actually works for $60. All electric...just an aluminum tube.
BTW somebody stole your shocks.
Centroid Products can make any ohm sender any length that actually works for $60. All electric...just an aluminum tube.
BTW somebody stole your shocks.
I thought all along the 98s used 0-90 senders but they dont, they are like 40-250ohm, just the opposite of the 99+ cars. It works after fooling with the PCM, just wont read over 3/4 tank. Good to know about Centroid though, the tube type senders are a lot nicer. I already bought one of these and will try to just flip the resister part over, I'm cheap
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
08-02-2006, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
Looks good! Do you have the pump isolated with rubber?
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08-02-2006, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
Isolating will quiet it down big time, especially in the car. Being bolted straight to metal, the metal acts as an amplifier.
Like I said the noise isnt a concern for me really, but its by no means what I would call quiet, quiter then a Weldon 2345 though lol.
08-02-2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kp
Started this at noon and didnt get done until 2am and already had the stock tank out - lot of freaking work Biggest pain was I couldnt find a sender to work right so I was able to reprogram the pcm and get it to work OK with a 0-90 ohm sender which will work out better if I do away with the stock PCM/wiring and use an aftermarket gas gauge.
I used an old RCI fuel cell rollover valve/vent (the tank I have is an older one that used the 99+ fuel module) that I put in the top and the elbow is above the filler neck, should be fine..
Only real comment is this pump is pretty loud, doesnt really matter to me as long as it works OK. Another thing is it uses some current so dont be stingy on the wire. I just used one of the 10ga wires from my old dual pump setup and the wire got pretty warm after about 10 minutes, so I used both relays with two 10 ga wires and a 6ga ground wire.
Tank fit well, pretty happy with the whole setup except I wish the tank was a little better baffled but the sump is pretty low so it should be OK. Too late to start it but I'll see how it does tomorrow at keeping the pressure up compared to the dual walbros I had..
Biggest pain was I couldnt find a sender to work right so I was able to reprogram the pcm and get it to work OK with a 0-90 ohm sender which will work out better if I do away with the stock PCM/wiring and use an aftermarket gas gauge.I used an old RCI fuel cell rollover valve/vent (the tank I have is an older one that used the 99+ fuel module) that I put in the top and the elbow is above the filler neck, should be fine..
Only real comment is this pump is pretty loud, doesnt really matter to me as long as it works OK. Another thing is it uses some current so dont be stingy on the wire. I just used one of the 10ga wires from my old dual pump setup and the wire got pretty warm after about 10 minutes, so I used both relays with two 10 ga wires and a 6ga ground wire.
Tank fit well, pretty happy with the whole setup except I wish the tank was a little better baffled but the sump is pretty low so it should be OK. Too late to start it but I'll see how it does tomorrow at keeping the pressure up compared to the dual walbros I had..
08-02-2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TrakDay
Please keep us posted on how you like this pump and how it does. I am about a week away from ordering one and want to be sure I make the right decision.
Fresh dual in tank walbros with the good Y and bulkhead in the tank would move 5 gallons in 2 minutes 30 seconds, 120gpm which is pretty good. This one moved 5 gallons in 1 minute 15 seconds which is 240gpm free flow, thats a LOT of fuel but @60-70psi who knows. I'll find out when its not 95 degrees out
08-02-2006, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
Finding a spot to mount the dude on a stock tank car is a challange. Youve got a good spot since youre using an aftermarket tank. The pump is big!
08-02-2006, 07:49 PM
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i did not know where to put mine. its bolted to the trunk right now so i could get the car to a shop. but im having a true dual setup fabbed and will either steal your location on the upper bar or mount where the ehaust hanger used to be
Last edited by SVC707; 08-02-2006 at 07:55 PM.