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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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ok guys my cousin and I were working on his camaro v6 by the way and well we thought the car had a bad fuel pump since the car hasnt been turned on or moved in almost a year and a half and well we replaced the fuel filter and emptied the gas but the car still wont start it cranks and u hear the fuel pump engage we just cant seem to get it to start . anyone think they can help me with this id really appreciate it. Thanx
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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check to see if you have spark?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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has spark we checked that too i told him maybe his injectors are clogged and get some either sea foam or fuel injection cleaner u all think that would work ?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Do a search for VATS...Vehicle Anti Theft System...I think it refers to.

It involves the little tab thats on your key...That little pellet is a resistor that when inserted into the ignition it bridges the contact between 2 VERY small/delicate wires.This allows the VATS system to read the resistance of the pellet on the key and in turn gives the "go ahead" if the resistance is correct.

If the key is old and/or damaged,the system might be getting an incorrect resistance reading and ends up locking you out as if your using the incorrect key...

Try a spare key for the car if you have it.If its the key,the spare should work.Or you will have to get another key cut with the correct resistance pellet from your dealer.

Here is a link that may help out VATS info
If the problem is deeper in the system,its most likely the delicate wires which you can end up replacing the whole ignition cylinder(plus keys) or you can bypass it using a spare key or resistors from Radio Shack (or similar store) that add up to the same resistance level as your original key's pellet.All this info should turn up on searches,including how to tell what resistance level your key pellet is using an OHM meter...

Of course this is all just a possibility,check all the usual suspects of course and if you do any of this stuff with the VATS,do so at yur own risk!!!!!!LOL!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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ignition relay
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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still no go guys anyone think it might be the pump ?
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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if you can hear the pump engage, seems like its working fine. usually when the pumps go, they just stop and you cant hear anything.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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I have to ask you said you emptied the old gas, did you put new in? try some starting fluid and see if it fires for a few seconds
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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true, i dunno if this applies to later model vehicles but cycle the key from off the the on position 3 or 4 times to prime the fuel system but you already probably took care of that with start attempts.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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yea bro we tried prime it after we removed the old gas and we put new gas in we tried primeing it after that and still no go like i said u all think fuel treatment or fuel injection cleaner will help?
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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If it sat that long the injectors are prob beond inj. cleaner you can have them professionally cleaned or replace them. You are getting fuel to the rails? Check to be sure the lines are all free.

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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well the rails were getting fuel but it seems to be less and less so i dont know what else to do to the danm thing. if anyone has anymore ideas throw them my way and for those who posted thanx for the info .
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how much new gas did you put back in
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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You have to get a pressure gauge on it. Ohm the injectors and check them with a Noid light. with a car that has sat there are hundreds of things that can cause it to not start and if you are not sure and testing with the right equipment you will just be chasing your tail and replacing parts it does not need.

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