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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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It looks okay to me but I dont mess with these everyday. what do you guys think ? this is for a 94 T/A 2 series with now 3.73 gears (richmond)
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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I am not sure why your drive pattern is so low on the ring gear. What is the backlash at right now? Did you keep light pressure or drag on the ring gear when making the pattern I usually take a rag and hold against the edge of the gear while turning the pinion yoke makes the pattern a little more detailed, then I make about 5 revolutions in each direction. Here is a pic of the last 4.10 I setup has alot longer pattern on the ring gear couldn't find a pic of the coast side. Hope it helps a bit.

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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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The backlash is at .009 Richmond calls for .010, pinion depth (checking distance) mine is at 2.348, while it calls for 2.314. So, everything seems in spec.
OH, and yes it did add some drag. maybe ill try and do it again..
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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page 5 it looks like the ideal pattern http://www.richmondgear.com/ringandpinion.pdf
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Looks too high to me based off the above link...
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Looks too high to me based off the above link...
you guys are good, measure twice cut once. Some how I messed up my measurement, so I when back and remeasured it, I got a completely different number for pinion depth 2.284 which means the pinion is too deep and I have to take .033 off the shim. oh, well live and learn I guess.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Looks to be just a hair deep, maybe .002-.003 thousands and keep the .009 backlash, you close. I have never counted on pinion depth for setting up aftermarket gears. Always relied on contact pattern.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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You can try to make it better. I did a richmond 4.10 two years ago and after messing with pinion depth I came out with the same depth as you and the same contact pattern. I think you have it. I drove 5K on mine so far and my buddies say is one of the quietest richmond gear setups they have heard. Just my 2 cents
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thanks ,I did take 3 thous off the pinion shim and now in the process of putting it back together. tomorrow ill take some pics and post my results.
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How did it turn out?
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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okay I guess, the adjustment didnt really move the drive pattern too much if at all. the coast side looks better though. Looking on richmonds site it looks like it is supposed to be a little toe heavy. Soon as i get out of work ill post some pics
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Drive side just a tad toe heavy makes for a stronger setup under hard launch because the pinion tooth will try to climp the ring tooth. This setup ensures the most tooth contact or coverage under launch. However sometimes you will get a tad bit of whine under this setup.
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heres the pics, I think i'm going to take away 1 thousandths shim away from the driver side of the carrier and add it on the other side and that should move the ring gear away no? it looks a bit root heavy.
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disregard the middle tooth, i repositioning my hand turning the pinion at that point
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Those patterns look pretty darn good. Still maybe a tad tall toward the top land. I would run it and see how it does.
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Originally Posted by TransAmdriv3r
heres the pics, I think i'm going to take away 1 thousandths shim away from the driver side of the carrier and add it on the other side and that should move the ring gear away no? it looks a bit root heavy.

Yes that would move the ring gear away from the pinion. When you say root heavy I assume you mean toe heavy? From what I see your pinion depth is perfect, root to face. It can use a little more backlash to move the pattern towards the heel, but you need to check the measurement first. If your already at max. backlash then your done. Let us know where the backlash is set that produced that pattern.

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will do. ,thanks a bunch guys.
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my backlash is set at .010
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TransAmdriv3r
my backlash is set at .010

I think your golden. Richmond says .008-.012 on backlash but its not a "setting range", its allowance for carrier runout. Meaning .008 min and up to .012 at its furthest spot. The pattern looks damn good and your BL is on the money. You've done well...now go and enjoy it
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you guys are alsome, sucks ill have to wait to try it out, got some more things I want to install before i take it out on the road
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glad you got it lined out, second pattern looks alot better. Congrats.
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