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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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I'm waiting on a shim pack to come in the mail, and have a question. I've got 2 crush sleeves right now; but I want to mock up the gears to check the pattern with the current pinion shim.

Can I do this without installing the crush sleeve? Basically just set the preload to 15in-lb and check. I've got a setup bearing as well.

I'd just rather not burn through crush sleeves every time I need to adjust the pinion shim, not to mention they're also a bitch to crush.

Then once I get it right throw a new pinion nut/crush sleeve and put it all together and give it one last check.

Will that work?
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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you always set it up correctly before installing the crush sleeve.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by alamantia
you always set it up correctly before installing the crush sleeve.
Sweet, that's what somebody told me; but I wanted to make sure! Thanks.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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i mocked mine up using the old crush sleeve and tightened it till there was no play in the bearings.
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Hey, sort of unrelated; but hate to start another thread... finally getting this sort of close to wrapped up. First time.

I have a good pattern, good pinion bearing preload; but my backlash is ~ .0065".

Running Motive Gears. I have an install kit I ordered and won't be in until Monday. I just hate to pull everything apart when pattern/preload/everything looks right on the money short of the backlash being .0015" too tight.

Any recommendations here? OK? or Wait for the shim kit?
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Did you clean the compound off the ring gear and pinion after checking the patteren ?, that will give you a few thousandths. The pinion get coated pritty heave after checking the patteren
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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i just installed some Motive's at .006 backlash and they are quiet as a mouse even though Motive recommends .007-.009. i figured a tad tighter wouldnt hurt anything.
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
i just installed some Motive's at .006 backlash and they are quiet as a mouse even though Motive recommends .007-.009. i figured a tad tighter wouldnt hurt anything.
I've heard a tad tighter is actually better for drag racing... although probably increases your chance for noise as well.

I guess I could take it on a short drive and see what it sounds like, if it seems too loud I could bump it up to .008". I'd prefer to be a little on the tight side for strength. This isn't a circle track/autox car.

And thanks for the tip about cleaning off the pinion. It's prob got a **** ton of Prussian Blue on it as I haven't sprayed it clean like the ring gear...
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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that blue **** is hard to get off, i like the white grease that comes in the rebuild kits better.
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