10 Bolt And Nittos?
A lot of the issue is who builds the rear. A GM rear will last a very, very long time. It seems people can spend countless hours with dial indicators and etc setting up a rear and still not get it how GM does it.
I'm on stock 3.42's with NT05's.. No idea how long this will last, but it DOES come down to the driver.. if you let a Stang owner behind the wheel, the rear won't last a month.
If/when you go to the track, just leave kinda easy, don't HAMMER IT on the 1-2 shift, and you'll be fine. I've been on my stock rear for 7 years since I bought the car.
If/when you go to the track, just leave kinda easy, don't HAMMER IT on the 1-2 shift, and you'll be fine. I've been on my stock rear for 7 years since I bought the car.
My clutch went out before my stock 10 bolt. I just bought nittos 555r rears on stock 16 inch rims. Did a few 3000 rpm launches on the street and now my clutch is slipping and stock 10 bolt is still in place. Granted I have a girdle behind it. I am pushing about 430 rwhp to the wheels and 3000 rpms launches I looked at my dyno sheet and I am @ 325 ft lbs of trq @ that rpm.
I believe that if you change out your pinion seal, change the gear oil and add the additive with the girdle the stock 10 bolt should last a lil longer. As soon as I get my new clutch installed I am goin to launch again on the street at about 3000-3500 rpm launches. Then take it to the track.
I wouldn't do 4000-5000 clutch dumps though in a 6 speed.
I also would like to add that I added the lower control arms and did these dumps.
Actually I am running the Nitto Drag Radialls 555r's in the rear. They are good for the street and rain. But are limited to about 10-15000 miles. The Girdle is what I put behind the rear. It is another name for the rear end cover. It is suppose to give a lil xtra strength to the stock 10 bolt. WS6store sells them. There are 2 bolts each side of the cover that set about 10 lbs each on the main caps from bursting under hard acceloration in the rear end housing. It is suppose to give it xtra support.
I believe that if you change out your pinion seal, change the gear oil and add the additive with the girdle the stock 10 bolt should last a lil longer. As soon as I get my new clutch installed I am goin to launch again on the street at about 3000-3500 rpm launches. Then take it to the track.
I wouldn't do 4000-5000 clutch dumps though in a 6 speed.
I also would like to add that I added the lower control arms and did these dumps.
I believe that if you change out your pinion seal, change the gear oil and add the additive with the girdle the stock 10 bolt should last a lil longer. As soon as I get my new clutch installed I am goin to launch again on the street at about 3000-3500 rpm launches. Then take it to the track.
I wouldn't do 4000-5000 clutch dumps though in a 6 speed.
I also would like to add that I added the lower control arms and did these dumps.
The Girtle is just over $100.00. Go to ws6store.com under driveline u will see them there. I just got the nittos about 2 weeks ago though and now replacing my clutch. @ 40,000 miles thats not bad for replacing a clutch. I am conservative though with my car, but recently gettin on it.
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It seems to me to be very difficult to break the 10 bolt with any radial to include Mickey's. I don't think people give it enough credit or it's just a matter of rolling the dice.
Wheel hop seems to be the worst thing for these rears as you end up getting sudden repeated strains on your gearing. Numberically higher gears in a 10 bolt will make the teeth weaker overall, but lower gears are just harder to turn.
S60 is my next upgrade still, and my rear has been fine on radials. I have too much power to get it to hold on a dump.
Wheel hop seems to be the worst thing for these rears as you end up getting sudden repeated strains on your gearing. Numberically higher gears in a 10 bolt will make the teeth weaker overall, but lower gears are just harder to turn.
S60 is my next upgrade still, and my rear has been fine on radials. I have too much power to get it to hold on a dump.
You Sir a Smart man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont last one night of having fun. period.
auto!! keyword there.
areyou an auto or m6?
The Girtle is just over $100.00. Go to ws6store.com under driveline u will see them there. I just got the nittos about 2 weeks ago though and now replacing my clutch. @ 40,000 miles thats not bad for replacing a clutch. I am conservative though with my car, but recently gettin on it.
It seems to me to be very difficult to break the 10 bolt with any radial to include Mickey's. I don't think people give it enough credit or it's just a matter of rolling the dice.
Wheel hop seems to be the worst thing for these rears as you end up getting sudden repeated strains on your gearing. Numberically higher gears in a 10 bolt will make the teeth weaker overall, but lower gears are just harder to turn.
the 10 bolt sucks *****!!!!!!!!! i dont give it credit. if u have an m6 running DR's. good luck cause ur driving a ticking time bomb, but thx for the knowledge of the numberically gearing in the 10 bolt
S60 is my next upgrade still, and my rear has been fine on radials. I have too much power to get it to hold on a dump.
Wheel hop seems to be the worst thing for these rears as you end up getting sudden repeated strains on your gearing. Numberically higher gears in a 10 bolt will make the teeth weaker overall, but lower gears are just harder to turn.
the 10 bolt sucks *****!!!!!!!!! i dont give it credit. if u have an m6 running DR's. good luck cause ur driving a ticking time bomb, but thx for the knowledge of the numberically gearing in the 10 bolt
S60 is my next upgrade still, and my rear has been fine on radials. I have too much power to get it to hold on a dump.
Mine has done fine.. has had over 400whp for about 3 years and now has about 6 4500+ rpm nitrous launches on it. Preload the clutch before launch if you want to even give it a chance at making it down the track.
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660# tq last year on 275 MT drag radials, aluminum ds, solid brass clutch. Put about 5k miles on it and no issues. Never went to the track though. Depends on how you drive it.
Wheel hop will kill it for sure. That may be a factor with some of these setups.
Building an 8.8 this year.
Wheel hop will kill it for sure. That may be a factor with some of these setups.
Building an 8.8 this year.
I'm in an M6, but have never gotten better than a 1.8
I'm also running 35 or 40 series drag radials on an 18" wheel. Maybe I just don't hit it that hard, but I bang my shifts as hard as I can with a Monster Stage III.
I personally have no problems with my rear-end at the moment but I'm going to upgrade to an S60 for the fact I want 4.11's.
I would not expect the 10 bolt to hold on a tire of 26" or more with a 15" wheel. There is more to the rear end holding together than just the type of tire. What size is the tire and aspect ratio? How much pressure are you running in the tire? What size is the wheel? How much power are you making and what is your gear ratio? What is the weight of the car? How is the track prep? What other suspension mods have you done?
Just saying "they won't last behind an M6, period" is ridiculous. There's more to it than that my friend.
You guys need to stop giving cookie cutter answers to vague questions.
I'm also running 35 or 40 series drag radials on an 18" wheel. Maybe I just don't hit it that hard, but I bang my shifts as hard as I can with a Monster Stage III.
I personally have no problems with my rear-end at the moment but I'm going to upgrade to an S60 for the fact I want 4.11's.
I would not expect the 10 bolt to hold on a tire of 26" or more with a 15" wheel. There is more to the rear end holding together than just the type of tire. What size is the tire and aspect ratio? How much pressure are you running in the tire? What size is the wheel? How much power are you making and what is your gear ratio? What is the weight of the car? How is the track prep? What other suspension mods have you done?
Just saying "they won't last behind an M6, period" is ridiculous. There's more to it than that my friend.
You guys need to stop giving cookie cutter answers to vague questions.
I went to the track with stock gears and on nittos 555r and I drop tire pressure to 18 pounds and did a burn out. I took it about 3000 rpm and pop the clutch and I twisted and snap my driveshaft in half. I would recomend it because every car is diffrent some might hold up than others but their is that risk. I have a spec 3 clutch and my tranny is strong but I guess it broke the weakest part to my car. So I put another stock aluminum back in it. But I would upgrade or reinforced the rear and get a thicker aluminum ds or a steel one just for the track.
I'm in an M6, but have never gotten better than a 1.8
I'm also running 35 or 40 series drag radials on an 18" wheel. Maybe I just don't hit it that hard, but I bang my shifts as hard as I can with a Monster Stage III.
I personally have no problems with my rear-end at the moment but I'm going to upgrade to an S60 for the fact I want 4.11's.
I would not expect the 10 bolt to hold on a tire of 26" or more with a 15" wheel. There is more to the rear end holding together than just the type of tire. What size is the tire and aspect ratio? How much pressure are you running in the tire? What size is the wheel? How much power are you making and what is your gear ratio? What is the weight of the car? How is the track prep? What other suspension mods have you done?
Just saying "they won't last behind an M6, period" is ridiculous. There's more to it than that my friend.
You guys need to stop giving cookie cutter answers to vague questions.
I'm also running 35 or 40 series drag radials on an 18" wheel. Maybe I just don't hit it that hard, but I bang my shifts as hard as I can with a Monster Stage III.
I personally have no problems with my rear-end at the moment but I'm going to upgrade to an S60 for the fact I want 4.11's.
I would not expect the 10 bolt to hold on a tire of 26" or more with a 15" wheel. There is more to the rear end holding together than just the type of tire. What size is the tire and aspect ratio? How much pressure are you running in the tire? What size is the wheel? How much power are you making and what is your gear ratio? What is the weight of the car? How is the track prep? What other suspension mods have you done?
Just saying "they won't last behind an M6, period" is ridiculous. There's more to it than that my friend.
You guys need to stop giving cookie cutter answers to vague questions.
do you think the stock 10-bolt is up to the task?
Last edited by mtuggle86; May 29, 2010 at 12:05 AM.