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Old 01-19-2011, 04:21 PM
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Okay, so I've wondered about this for a little while now. My car spins wheels extremely easily, even though I've got a basically stock setup and 315 tires (they're Sumitomos, but still). When I say I spin easily, If i'm in first coasting as 15 mph and step on it, I spin. I was looking at my maintenance log and apparently about 60k miles ago (long before I owned the car), the diff had to be replaced. Is there a chance that the dealer jipped the previous owner and put an open differential from a V6 in my car?
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Does the back end get loose when it spins the tires? Mine feels loose as soon as its starts to spin. One wheel peel should be pretty easy to verify.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Does the back end get loose when it spins the tires? Mine feels loose as soon as its starts to spin. One wheel peel should be pretty easy to verify.
I've just never gotten around to getting someone stand outside the car while I tried it. Would i be able to tell by putting it on a lift and just pushing the wheels around with my hand?
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You could just raise the rear, put it in neutral and rotate the driveshaft.

FWIW, a slightly modded V6 on the same size Sumitomos could probably do the same thing, those tires are pretty much garbage.
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Originally Posted by WarShrike
You could just raise the rear, put it in neutral and rotate the driveshaft.
Okay, if I do this, what SHOULD happen if it's the right diff? And what will it do with an open differential?
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Do a burnout and count the tire marks, it doesn't get any easier than that!

1 tire mark = open
2 tire marks = posi
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Open up the cover, it may be due for a fluid change anyways. If you just see a carrier with 4 spider gears then its open. If its a solid unit with little worm gears inside or if you see clutch packs in between the spider gears, its limited slip.


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Do a burnout and count the tire marks, it doesn't get any easier than that!

1 tire mark = open
2 tire marks = posi
True, but he could have a failed limited slip unit....

I guess either way it would need to be replaced!

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You could just raise the rear, put it in neutral and rotate the driveshaft.
I could be wrong but if its a Torsen rear it'll act like an open diff when raised in the air (since there is "zero" traction in the air), I think thats what my V6 with the Torsen does.
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Hmm, mine with the OEM posi moves both.
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An auburn will move both. A zexel torsen is a torque sensing diff and will be act open until torque is applied. If there is a torsen then if you move one wheel then the other might not move while in the air.
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the v6 rear ends had limented slip(gov lock) as well, i got one at a junk yard and it spun both tires everytime.
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Alright, looks like I'm taking a trip on a couple backroads later today.
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If you do a brake torque with either limited slip rears you should roast both tires - easilly with and LS1 The best way I do burnouts on the street is brake torque just until the tires let loose then let off the brake pedal and stab the throttle. My car doesn't like to sit on a burnout for some reason, could be the rear brake lining material....
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Originally Posted by RedHotG8
Do a burnout and count the tire marks, it doesn't get any easier than that!

1 tire mark = open
2 tire marks = posi

Best way to test it
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Originally Posted by 2nd3rd4thgen
the v6 rear ends had limented slip(gov lock) as well, i got one at a junk yard and it spun both tires everytime.
They were not standard. It was an option that most didn't get.
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Originally Posted by RedHotG8
Do a burnout and count the tire marks, it doesn't get any easier than that!

1 tire mark = open
2 tire marks = posi
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Originally Posted by Deviant LS1
They were not standard. It was an option that most didn't get.
Yup, like mine. Gu6 G80 optioned car
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Just pop the back cover off and take a look. When was the last time it had a fluid change.
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Originally Posted by RedHotG8
Do a burnout and count the tire marks, it doesn't get any easier than that!

1 tire mark = open
2 tire marks = posi
I just replaced my front O2s at my friend's shop, and I asked him to watch and tell me what I left behind. 2 marks! Now I guess my quest for traction takes me to replacing my 146k old shocks and springs.
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I'd say you need to get some stickier tires along with the new shocks & springs.
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Originally Posted by RedHotG8
I'd say you need to get some stickier tires along with the new shocks & springs.
Yeah, I need to ditch these **** Sumitomos. But I'm just not ready to go all the way to Mickey Thompson's ET Streets.



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