View Poll Results: If a 8.8 bolt-on torque arm kit was made, what would you want?
Bolt-on kit, with torque arm and crossmember included, you obtain rear and modify
27
32.53%
Full bolt-in Ford 8.8 with torque arm kit, and LS1 suspension and backing plate provisions
43
51.81%
Full bolt-in Ford 8.8 rear, 31 spline axles, housing, torque arm only
11
13.25%
Full bolt-in Ford 8.8 rear, 31 spline axles, Ford 9 big-bearing C-clip eliminators ($120 extra)
21
25.30%
Full Bolt in Ford 8.8 rear, 28 spline axles
8
9.64%
Race kit with spherical rod-ends
3
3.61%
Street kit with polyurethane/delrin bushings
9
10.84%
4130 Chromeoly option
5
6.02%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll
Who would be interested in an 8.8 torque arm rear?
#23
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#26
I am interested in one but why not use the factory type T/A? Why use a custom one? Most people putting a rear end in already have an aftermarket T/A. I'd like to see a T/A mount that the uses the stock style of T/A.
#27
Nothing worse than not being able to use parts that you already have. I'm currently trying various ideas to build a "bolt-in" 8.8. On paper, it does not appear to be all that difficult.....but time will tell.
#31
I'd be all over this if available when I upgrade rears!
I skipped out on this mod on my last SS, and am already finding an excuse with putting it off until after a h/c swap. $3k+ for a complete, streetable setup that can handle a typical h/c M6 car is outrageous! It's tempted me numerous times to go back to foxbodies... All it takes on those cars for a 10second proof rear is a used 31spline unit from an F150 with Trak-Lock...
I am wondering though, are Ford 8.8's any stronger than the GM 12 bolts? They both have the same size ring gear. Seems there are still people breaking 12 bolts with M6 cars. There's gotta be an option strong enough to handle 500+rwhp and clutch dumps that doesn't cost as much and don't rob as much power as a big 9inch does...
Jason
I skipped out on this mod on my last SS, and am already finding an excuse with putting it off until after a h/c swap. $3k+ for a complete, streetable setup that can handle a typical h/c M6 car is outrageous! It's tempted me numerous times to go back to foxbodies... All it takes on those cars for a 10second proof rear is a used 31spline unit from an F150 with Trak-Lock...
I am wondering though, are Ford 8.8's any stronger than the GM 12 bolts? They both have the same size ring gear. Seems there are still people breaking 12 bolts with M6 cars. There's gotta be an option strong enough to handle 500+rwhp and clutch dumps that doesn't cost as much and don't rob as much power as a big 9inch does...
Jason
#33
This would be nice if it works out but it normally doesn't. About once every six months someone has this idea and talks about making them for cheap. Then the person realizes its not going to be as cheap as they thought and then the price goes up. Then you have a bunch of babies that want something for nothing start to cry and the whole idea gets scraped.
Seen it at least a half of dozen times.
If it works out I'd get one.
Seen it at least a half of dozen times.
If it works out I'd get one.
#34
Very true, but the only thing I keep thinking is there are bunch more of these 8.8's out there and still being made by Ford compared to GM 12bolts and even 9" rears. All it takes is the right person coming up with the design but also negotiating a good enough deal with the suppliers to make it happen.
I almost bought a clean, low mileage 2000 M6 car with a Ford 8.8" in it. That install was as nice as that car was and held up to a number of clutch dumps.
Jason
#35
I'm not hatin on the idea, please don't think that. Like I said everyone wants something and they don't want to pay for it. Modular Turbo's $499 hot side thread is a great example of this. I work in a small shop and I deal with the same thing on a weekly basis.
IMO, the best way to do it is someone just sells the axle housing with the mount on it. There is really no way to build something like that and make everyone happy. If you just sold the rearend housing bare then customers could put whatever they want in it and it would be a lot let hassle for the company/person that's making it. Regardless there will still be people whining about it. I understand you need to make the customer happy but it also comes to a point where you need to tell them maybe they should look elsewhere.
IMO, the best way to do it is someone just sells the axle housing with the mount on it. There is really no way to build something like that and make everyone happy. If you just sold the rearend housing bare then customers could put whatever they want in it and it would be a lot let hassle for the company/person that's making it. Regardless there will still be people whining about it. I understand you need to make the customer happy but it also comes to a point where you need to tell them maybe they should look elsewhere.
#36
Not an F-body. Several fox-bodies have. Just attesting to the strength of an 8.8. The poster at the bottom is running 7's with 1400 rwhp and 31 spline 8.8. (EDIT) It IS a mustang though.. maybe that was in the 1/8th
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh....php?p=6182264
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh....php?p=6182264
#38
Your best bet for success, is to do a housing/axle deal, and leave it at that.
If I seen a Nice housing and t/a setup that didn't look like it'd break. Along with some non c-clip 31spline axles for equal price to a quick performance housing/axle setups. I'd put down cash on one today!
If I seen a Nice housing and t/a setup that didn't look like it'd break. Along with some non c-clip 31spline axles for equal price to a quick performance housing/axle setups. I'd put down cash on one today!
#39
I'd be interested in one of these if the price is right, my 10 bolt has been getting noisier and it may be on its way out.
+1
The fact that we need to spend more money on a rear end then most people ever put into their motors (just to hold up to mild mods) is ridiculous.
I would like to know more about this as well.
+1 To both of these. If these were advertised as only compatible with a certain custom torque arm people will be discouraged. This would also keep costs down. The ability to transfer over brakes and everything else would be excellent.
I agree, anyone can fill a rear end with axles and a posi. Fabricating all the suspension brackets and mounts and setting the correct suspension geometry is whats difficult. If your measurements are off in the slightest bit your screwed.
C-Clip elimination FTW.
I skipped out on this mod on my last SS, and am already finding an excuse with putting it off until after a h/c swap. $3k+ for a complete, streetable setup that can handle a typical h/c M6 car is outrageous! It's tempted me numerous times to go back to foxbodies... All it takes on those cars for a 10second proof rear is a used 31spline unit from an F150 with Trak-Lock...
The fact that we need to spend more money on a rear end then most people ever put into their motors (just to hold up to mild mods) is ridiculous.
C-Clip elimination FTW.
Last edited by RedVertTA; 07-24-2011 at 02:45 AM.