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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 04:37 PM
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I know this has been beat to death but prices seem to fluctuate like gas. I am looking for a 9 inch for my 02 Camaro. And I wanted to get some opinions on what I need and how the fitment/quality is. I am capable of assembly and installation.

Specs of the car

403 ci LQ4
TH400 rmvb fully built standard gear ratios
84mm FI Billet Turbo w/ 96mm exhaust
No exhaust (dump out the bumper mod)
Car is ABS Delete.
Car has ZERO modifications suspension wise
It is NOT a daily driver but I would like to drive it to and from track and around town. No extended use.
When raced (maybe 1 or 2 a month through summer and fall), 1/8th mile track.
275/60 Mickey Pros
1000+ whp potential

Here is what I am thinking:

3 inch Narrow 9 inch
Spool/35 spline axles
Stock brakes. No parking brake
Nodular Iron or Aluminum 3rd member??
GEAR RATIO???!???!???! 3.25????
Who, what, when, where and why?

I am trying to help myself and others who are looking for recent feedback. I don't have to cut a 1.3 60 but....I don't wanna bog or sit and spin. HELP??!??!

Thanks for the space.

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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 05:22 PM
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Our list of possibilities are endless as far as options an offer the most on the market and our housing is the only housing on the market that bolts back in like the 10-bolt came out plus you can reuse your factory backing plates and shocks then upgrade later on to aftermarket brakes or shocks.

Narrowing the housing -3 per side is no issue with out getting into the LCA brackets.
35spl spool comes in our base package.
Stock brakes can be used and can be switched to race brakes later on.
Nodular Iron works well up to a point but aluminum has it's positives and downfalls when it comes to street driving. That is something we can discuss in full detail over a phone call to learn more about your intentions.
Gear ratio depends on combination, HP, tire height, and multiple other things that go with your combination.

Give us a call and we can get you in the right direction with out wasting your time and money.
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by OverblownZ/28
I know this has been beat to death but prices seem to fluctuate like gas. I am looking for a 9 inch for my 02 Camaro. And I wanted to get some opinions on what I need and how the fitment/quality is. I am capable of assembly and installation.

Specs of the car

403 ci LQ4
TH400 rmvb fully built standard gear ratios
84mm FI Billet Turbo w/ 96mm exhaust
No exhaust (dump out the bumper mod)
Car is ABS Delete.
Car has ZERO modifications suspension wise
It is NOT a daily driver but I would like to drive it to and from track and around town. No extended use.
When raced (maybe 1 or 2 a month through summer and fall), 1/8th mile track.
275/60 Mickey Pros
1000+ whp potential

Here is what I am thinking:

3 inch Narrow 9 inch
Spool/35 spline axles
Stock brakes. No parking brake
Nodular Iron or Aluminum 3rd member??
GEAR RATIO???!???!???! 3.25????
Who, what, when, where and why?

I am trying to help myself and others who are looking for recent feedback. I don't have to cut a 1.3 60 but....I don't wanna bog or sit and spin. HELP??!??!

Thanks for the space.
Call MWC or CRP and do it right the first time. The fact that you're considering an aluminum center tells me you are worried about weight. You can't get any lighter than the fab9s with an aftermarket rear.
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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I am not worried about weight as much as I am worried about strength. I want a rearend I can put in and forgot about. I want it to fit correctly and would like to have it built at a reasonable price.

I have several options on the table and have contacted some vendors here and some who are not here.

Apples for Apples the best bang for the buck appears to be Burkhart at $3260 for their fab 9 and they have a housing on the shelf that can be ready in 2-3 weeks. I am not in a rush but their price has been at least $500 cheaper to comparable fab 9s.
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 05:57 PM
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Our list of possibilities are endless as far as options an offer the most on the market and our housing is the only housing on the market that bolts back in like the 10-bolt came out plus you can reuse your factory backing plates and shocks then upgrade later on to aftermarket brakes or shocks.

Narrowing the housing -3 per side is no issue with out getting into the LCA brackets.
35spl spool comes in our base package.
Stock brakes can be used and can be switched to race brakes later on.
Nodular Iron works well up to a point but aluminum has it's positives and downfalls when it comes to street driving. That is something we can discuss in full detail over a phone call to learn more about your intentions.
Gear ratio depends on combination, HP, tire height, and multiple other things that go with your combination.

Give us a call and we can get you in the right direction with out wasting your time and money.
If this is Kevin, we talked as recently as today. You have been very helpful and answered many of my questions. Thank you. I will keep you in mind.
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OverblownZ/28
I am not worried about weight as much as I am worried about strength. I want a rearend I can put in and forgot about. I want it to fit correctly and would like to have it built at a reasonable price.

I have several options on the table and have contacted some vendors here and some who are not here.

Apples for Apples the best bang for the buck appears to be Burkhart at $3260 for their fab 9 and they have a housing on the shelf that can be ready in 2-3 weeks. I am not in a rush but their price has been at least $500 cheaper to comparable fab 9s.
Fair point, I had my heart set on a watt's link and there is really only one game in town for a fab9 with a watt's. Make sure you get it back braced and you should be good to go for those power levels. I'm just happy you aren't dropping the money to pump out 1000rwhp and then asking "think my 10-bolt will hold?"

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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 11:30 PM
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Fair point, I had my heart set on a watt's link and there is really only one game in town for a fab9 with a watt's. Make sure you get it back braced and you should be good to go for those power levels. I'm just happy you aren't dropping the money to pump out 1000rwhp and then asking "think my 10-bolt will hold?"
Yeah no doubt. I don't want to spend unnessary money so I am looking towards a reasonable solution. Realistically, the car will be 800ish most days, so I have to think that some of this "race" stuff isn't really what I need but rather upselling me.
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Yeah no doubt. I don't want to spend unnessary money so I am looking towards a reasonable solution. Realistically, the car will be 800ish most days, so I have to think that some of this "race" stuff isn't really what I need but rather upselling me.
I guess, I'm a big fan of overbuilding my car if possible, hence the level 2 trans and MWC rear for my goal of 500rwhp...I get not wanting to spend money, but I wouldn't want to drive a car I'm worried about breaking.
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Originally Posted by OverblownZ/28
I am not worried about weight as much as I am worried about strength. I want a rearend I can put in and forgot about. I want it to fit correctly and would like to have it built at a reasonable price.

I have several options on the table and have contacted some vendors here and some who are not here.

Apples for Apples the best bang for the buck appears to be Burkhart at $3260 for their fab 9 and they have a housing on the shelf that can be ready in 2-3 weeks. I am not in a rush but their price has been at least $500 cheaper to comparable fab 9s.
Not to sound like a sales pitch but the true fabricated rearend housing features components such as a drain plug, 4 hole relocator style lca brackets, stock style anti-sway bar mounts, brake line clips, and chassis brake hose mounting bracket. 98-02 applications also include brake hose mounts and e-brake cable brackets. These features are all standard equipment at no extra charge. Other manufacturers don't even offer some of these items that make it a true bolt-in.

No hose clamps or muffler brackets needed on our housings to mount brake lines and sway bars. Our base package with a spool starts at $2999 shipped(lower 48) with a spool, hard to beat that price. Add a backbrace at $150 and you are still only at $3149 that includes a torque arm and crossmember to suit your needs. We offer a long or short arm with multiple crossmembers.

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Originally Posted by OverblownZ/28
I am not worried about weight as much as I am worried about strength. I want a rearend I can put in and forgot about. I want it to fit correctly and would like to have it built at a reasonable price.

I have several options on the table and have contacted some vendors here and some who are not here.

Apples for Apples the best bang for the buck appears to be Burkhart at $3260 for their fab 9 and they have a housing on the shelf that can be ready in 2-3 weeks. I am not in a rush but their price has been at least $500 cheaper to comparable fab 9s.

Be careful on what you think is a comparable rearend... Keep in mind the MWC is a full package, including a true fabricated housing, lightweight and strong adjustable torque arm/crossmember, Strange axles and complete third member.

Best thing is to give us a call and discuss your needs and budget, then we can go over the costs. We will gladly discuss the differences in the most popular MWC 9" rearend package compared to the others on the market.

Knowledge is your best friend when masking a large investment for your car like this and we will be glad to "put you in the know" with what is what when it comes to rearends and suspension for the 4th gen car.
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I am not worried about weight as much as I am worried about strength. I want a rearend I can put in and forgot about. I want it to fit correctly and would like to have it built at a reasonable price.

I have several options on the table and have contacted some vendors here and some who are not here.

Apples for Apples the best bang for the buck appears to be Burkhart at $3260 for their fab 9 and they have a housing on the shelf that can be ready in 2-3 weeks. I am not in a rush but their price has been at least $500 cheaper to comparable fab 9s.
We appreciate your confidence in our rear end. We are certain you will be pleased with it.
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you can't beat the MWC 9" rear! have one in my 10 second 98 SS street/strip car with 4:10's. its the last thing I worry about when at the track!
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I have not purchased a rear end yet. I have not made up my mind.

MWC and Burkhart...

If ordered today, when could I expect it to arrive?
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As Chuck stated,we can have a rear end ready in 2 - 3 weeks.
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It really depends on the time of the year but we are currently running 4-6 week build times depending on options as certain things can extend the build such as powder coating. Winter and spring are our busiest times on rear end builds but we keep torque arms, cross-members, and other components in stock for our housings orders to speed up the process.

We are attempting to keep cores in stock as well but there is a reason we can not build them fast enough and that's simply because they are the best price and easiest to install on the market.

Everyone that receives one will tell you it's way worth the wait.

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I have not purchased a rear end yet. I have not made up my mind.

MWC and Burkhart...

If ordered today, when could I expect it to arrive?
It all really depends on the options you choose, but we could have a housing built and ready to ship within a few days if need be. We have all the other supporting items like torque arms, crossmembers, axles, center section components already on the shelf and ready to go.
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MWC is worth the wait, worth the cost, just plain worth it, period. I ripped all my old stock crap out, swapped my wilwoods, and bolted all my MWC stuff back in. Nothing compares, plain and simple. 35 splines with an s-trac and ice been beating on it for 2 years behind an M6. Love it
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MWC is worth the wait, worth the cost, just plain worth it, period. I ripped all my old stock crap out, swapped my wilwoods, and bolted all my MWC stuff back in. Nothing compares, plain and simple. 35 splines with an s-trac and ice been beating on it for 2 years behind an M6. Love it
So far I have to agree. Getting 4 different packages shipped to my shop over the course of almost 2 weeks was stressful. But the rear end...love it. I've got a 35 spline truetrac in mine. Assembly of the rear itself was pretty much standard for a rear end. But the fitment into the car once it was together was trivial.
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So far I have to agree. Getting 4 different packages shipped to my shop over the course of almost 2 weeks was stressful. But the rear end...love it. I've got a 35 spline truetrac in mine. Assembly of the rear itself was pretty much standard for a rear end. But the fitment into the car once it was together was trivial.
I told you install was a breeze on these rear ends..

As for shipping an incomplete or even a complete housing we try our best to make everything show up at the same time but when there is drop shipping involved on a driveshaft or some times center sections delivery can take longer for dropped shipped items.

Over the years I've seen crazy shipping stuff go down. I've shipped customers two to three boxes on the same pick up but to have them delivered at different days.
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