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I'm at my last nerve with this rear end. I installed the pan hard brace and bought double adjustable lower control arms from Midwest Chassis and adjusted everything and tried backing out of the drive way rear end moves left to right or right to left depending on which way I turn. Had to keep jacking rear end up and move car a little at a time to get it back straight into drive way. Everything is tight and equal threads showing on control arms!! Damn if i know whats going on. All i know is i messed up a fresh paint job and tore the hell out of my drivers side lower rocker. The only other thing i can think of is the bearings or movement with in the rear end its self. Its got to be moving 3-4 inches from one side to the other.
The panhard bar should be keeping the rear axle from moving left/right. Try a swaybar like Bob said and see how that works out.. you should have one anyway as running without a rear swaybar you won't get any decent traction.
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No leaks anywhere. I don't know what all the torque arm does but I find it to be a weird set up since Ive alway owned full frame cars in the past. LOL . It bolts to the rear end and goes in a clam shell in the front and can move freely in a rubber bushing. The torque sticks out past the bushing around 3 to 4 inches. Weird!
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Man that is weird. It's not possible to have movement like you describe from the rear axle itself.. unless your axle bearing is so screwed that the wheel is ready to fall off.
The panhard bar should be keeping the rear axle from moving left/right. Try a swaybar like Bob said and see how that works out.. you should have one anyway as running without a rear swaybar you won't get any decent traction.
The panhard bar should be keeping the rear axle from moving left/right. Try a swaybar like Bob said and see how that works out.. you should have one anyway as running without a rear swaybar you won't get any decent traction.
Could the frame be doing something weird ? Myself and a friend tied the frame with 2x2 square steel? HUMMM
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No leaks anywhere. I don't know what all the torque arm does but I find it to be a weird set up since Ive alway owned full frame cars in the past. LOL . It bolts to the rear end and goes in a clam shell in the front and can move freely in a rubber bushing. The torque sticks out past the bushing around 3 to 4 inches. Weird!
Without seeing a vid of your car and what the rear axle is doing it's difficult to understand what your issue is. Possibly the rear swaybar acts to hold the rear axle from moving too much together with the panhard bar and your swaybar is missing.
I have rod-end heim jointed(both sides) adjustable lca's and panhard bar the same as yours, and still the stock rear swaybar, with full spool, mine the rear end is solid and stable. I get a bit of clunk noises at low speed turns from the full spool, that's it. I wind the car off the speedo WOT without any issues. And anything above 15mph you don't even know it has a full spool in it. It still handles high speed corners as quick as you ever want.
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The torque arm acts similar to the 2 upper control arms of a typical 4-link, except it's much longer and it plants the weight of the front of the car onto the rear axle.. which is why you see so many 4th gens (like Bob's car above) on the back bumper.
Without seeing a vid of your car and what the rear axle is doing it's difficult to understand what your issue is. Possibly the rear swaybar acts to hold the rear axle from moving too much together with the panhard bar and your swaybar is missing.
I have rod-end heim jointed(both sides) adjustable lca's and panhard bar the same as yours, and still the stock rear swaybar, with full spool, mine the rear end is solid and stable. I get a bit of clunk noises at low speed turns from the full spool, that's it. I wind the car off the speedo WOT without any issues. And anything above 15mph you don't even know it has a full spool in it. It still handles high speed corners as quick as you ever want.
Without seeing a vid of your car and what the rear axle is doing it's difficult to understand what your issue is. Possibly the rear swaybar acts to hold the rear axle from moving too much together with the panhard bar and your swaybar is missing.
I have rod-end heim jointed(both sides) adjustable lca's and panhard bar the same as yours, and still the stock rear swaybar, with full spool, mine the rear end is solid and stable. I get a bit of clunk noises at low speed turns from the full spool, that's it. I wind the car off the speedo WOT without any issues. And anything above 15mph you don't even know it has a full spool in it. It still handles high speed corners as quick as you ever want.
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You should get a camera stuck under there to see what is going on. If the panhard is in there correctly and tightened down, the rear should not move side to side--even without a sway bar. Especially in the driveway.
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That was my thoughts from the beginning. I can see the beifits of having a sway bar but don't think it's my problem with the rear end doing what it's doing but everyone say's u need a sway bar.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/BMR-XSB00...BMR-XSB001.htm
I can have this anti roll bar shipped out tomorrow to you. Bob
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Bill, have you had anyone looking under the car wile you push on the body side to side? That's the first thing I would do to see if you can find the problem.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/BMR-XSB00...BMR-XSB001.htm
I can have this anti roll bar shipped out tomorrow to you. Bob
http://shop.brutespeed.com/BMR-XSB00...BMR-XSB001.htm
I can have this anti roll bar shipped out tomorrow to you. Bob
That's too bad! If I was closer to you I'd stop over to help you get it sorted out. Bob
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I went out to the garage and messed around with it again and heres what i did. Took my floor jack and jacked car up on pass-side just behind the front wheel until rear wheel came off the ground and it went straight into the quarter fender and lower rocker. Went to drivers side repeated the something and rear tire went into quarter fender and lower rocker I can't see anything thats moved anywhere. I'm almost convinced it's the frame thats giving? Just about to start looking for a roller and gut this car out for everything thats good and junk it!
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My torque arms are in the second hole from the bottom. If i try putting them in the lower hole i end up with to many threads showing.
Sorry about that i thought u said lower cantor arms .lol. As far as the torque arm i only see two options which is two holes but it only fits in one set of the holes other wise i would need to grind off some material .
Sorry about that i thought u said lower cantor arms .lol. As far as the torque arm i only see two options which is two holes but it only fits in one set of the holes other wise i would need to grind off some material .
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Update? Did you find out what the problem was yet? To me, in the pic of the passenger side jacked up with the pole beside your car, the tire doesn't look right. Not to sound retarded, but it looks like the axle bearing may not be on. Meaning the axles are moving inside the axle tube.
That's awesome!!
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