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I’ve got a 8.8 laying around and was fixing to get a shop close to me to cut the tubes off a 10 bolt and weld it to the 8.8 for my 98 z28. Are there any downsides to using the 10 bolt tubes as opposed to just using the 8.8 tubes? Also is there a preferred rearend? I have one out of a explorer, but can change if necessary. Thanks for the help
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Auto or manual trans?
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Auto or manual trans?
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In that case I wouldn't even waste my time on a 8.8 rear
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In that case I wouldn't even waste my time on a 8.8 rear
dont think it’ll hold or? I’ve got a couple buddies in the 700whp range running 8.8s with no problem launching on slicks
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dont think it’ll hold or? I’ve got a couple buddies in the 700whp range running 8.8s with no problem launching on slicks
Combine 700 hp with a manual trans torque arm mounted car and say goodnite lol. Sure they can hold some power, but not so much when it comes to a 6-speed f-body car
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Combine 700 hp with a manual trans torque arm mounted car and say goodnite lol. Sure they can hold some power, but not so much when it comes to a 6-speed f-body car
can’t be much worse than what’s in it lol. I believe it will hold up to a fair amount of power still. What would you recommend?
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700hp + manual trans + torque arm won't be a problem, not even with if traction + hi-rpm launches are added to the mix. The real problem comes when a clutch that hits way too hard is installed, which will force you to overbuild the rest of the drivetrain, make your car hard to launch, and generally slow the car down. Just choose a clutch that matches the power you have.

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Originally Posted by weedburner
700hp + manual trans + torque arm won't be a problem, not even with if traction + hi-rpm launches are added to the mix. The real problem comes when a clutch that hits way too hard is installed, which will force you to overbuild the rest of the drivetrain, make your car hard to launch, and generally slow the car down. Just choose a clutch that matches the power you have.

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I’m running a act clutch that’s rated for 750 tq. So far I’m pleased with it, but I haven’t really put it to the test yet, as I haven’t sprayed it, or ran a tire that catches any kinda traction yet
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dont think it’ll hold or? I’ve got a couple buddies in the 700whp range running 8.8s with no problem launching on slicks
I used the 10 bolt tubes , no problems yet. If budget allows , there are better choices .
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I used the 10 bolt tubes , no problems yet. If budget allows , there are better choices .
what kinda power is it seeing? I agree there’s definitely better options, but for the price, it’s worth a shot to try it out
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Originally Posted by Barrett 98z28

can’t be much worse than what’s in it lol. I believe it will hold up to a fair amount of power still. What would you recommend?
Honestly the 8.8 is a very poor choice for a 700 hp M6 fbody. Don't just take my word for it. Call all the big rear end companies that deal with these cars and they will let you know. Honestly I'd do either a 9 inch or S60. Believe me I'm all about saving some money and would love to do a nice 8.8 rear, but i've done tons of research on this, and talked to several manufactures, and realized this would not be a good investment for the long term
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Honestly the 8.8 is a very poor choice for a 700 hp M6 fbody. Don't just take my word for it. Call all the big rear end companies that deal with these cars and they will let you know. Honestly I'd do either a 9 inch or S60. Believe me I'm all about saving some money and would love to do a nice 8.8 rear, but i've done tons of research on this, and talked to several manufactures, and realized this would not be a good investment for the long term
It’s mostly a street car with the occasional track outings, so won’t be seeing spray or hard launches often. I would say n/a the car is making 470ish? Where do you think the weak point would be in the 8.8? And with it being mostly street driven do you think the parasticic loss of a s60 would be worth it?
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what kind of TA mount are you using? Weld on or bolt on?
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Big companies don't do torque arm 8.8's, so don't expect any endorsements from them.

From a manufacturing standpoint, a torque arm 8.8 just doesn't make sense when you must source used parts in volume, then put in the labor trying to make them look like they are worth as much as new parts. Crooked tubes to straighten, oem weld undercuts to fill in, rusty tubes to rehab, it all adds up. In the end for a big company that has to compete in the marketplace, new dedicated parts are less expensive and more attractive to the consumer.

I'm not a big company, but I have personally fab'd hundreds of my own version of torque arm 8.8's so I can speak from experience. My personal car has had a torque arm 8.5 10 bolt for over 15 years now, it's well north of 700.

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I wouldn't waste time or $ on a 8.8. 9" ftw
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Originally Posted by Barrett 98z28

It’s mostly a street car with the occasional track outings, so won’t be seeing spray or hard launches often. I would say n/a the car is making 470ish? Where do you think the weak point would be in the 8.8? And with it being mostly street driven do you think the parasticic loss of a s60 would be worth it?
There is a big difference between 470 and 700 hp lol. So at 470 hp and like 99% street driven with no super hard launches on slicks and whatnot, you'd probably be just fine with the 8.8 then
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Originally Posted by weedburner
Big companies don't do torque arm 8.8's, so don't expect any endorsements from them.

From a manufacturing standpoint, a torque arm 8.8 just doesn't make sense when you must source used parts in volume, then put in the labor trying to make them look like they are worth as much as new parts. Crooked tubes to straighten, oem weld undercuts to fill in, rusty tubes to rehab, it all adds up. In the end for a big company that has to compete in the marketplace, new dedicated parts are less expensive and more attractive to the consumer.

I'm not a big company, but I have personally fab'd hundreds of my own version of torque arm 8.8's so I can speak from experience. My personal car has had a torque arm 8.5 10 bolt for over 15 years now, it's well north of 700.

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do you use the bolt on torque arm or weld on?
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Originally Posted by Barrett 98z28

what kind of TA mount are you using? Weld on or bolt on?
Weld on mount .It was setup with a truing bar , very important imo .



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