Richmond gears, any good?
02-01-2005, 06:59 AM
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Richmond gears, any good? I can get 3.73 new richmond gear w/ install kit for only $250. I was just wondering if richmond gears were any good because I was going to save up and get motive's but this seems like a great deal to me.
02-01-2005, 09:38 AM
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I went through gear swap hell.
Trashed 5 sets of Motives in 7 weeks, yes, no typo here. Went with Richmonds and it lasted 4 years. I then sold my stock rear with them in it.
BTW Richmaonds can be louder because they are cut for strength and have a high nickel content (so I was told).
But my installer was dead nuts on the depth and backlash, resulting in a quieter than stock rear for those 4 years.
Trashed 5 sets of Motives in 7 weeks, yes, no typo here. Went with Richmonds and it lasted 4 years. I then sold my stock rear with them in it.
BTW Richmaonds can be louder because they are cut for strength and have a high nickel content (so I was told).
But my installer was dead nuts on the depth and backlash, resulting in a quieter than stock rear for those 4 years.
02-01-2005, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by freakynipples69
I can get 3.73 new richmond gear w/ install kit for only $250. I was just wondering if richmond gears were any good because I was going to save up and get motive's but this seems like a great deal to me.
02-01-2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimm
That doesn't seem like that great of a deal. Last I looked, you could get new motives and motive master install kit for less than that from our sponsor New Era Performance Parts ---->
02-01-2005, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimm
Well you specifically said you were saving for Motives.
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02-01-2005, 02:09 PM
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I think if you do much more research, you'll find out that they are heavily preferred to Richmond. I spent much time looking up information on this from various sites, and the consensus I found was that GM and Motives were heavily favored; especially compared to Richmond.
02-01-2005, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimm
I think if you do much more research, you'll find out that they are heavily preferred to Richmond. I spent much time looking up information on this from various sites, and the consensus I found was that GM and Motives were heavily favored; especially compared to Richmond.
02-01-2005, 04:12 PM
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as long as the product is quality, and strong and not flimsy. The motives are supposively a lot weaker and thinner compared to the richmond.
Edit: but I am going to ask a real noob question. How will the gears be louder? What kind of sound am I going to hear and when will I hear it?
Edit: but I am going to ask a real noob question. How will the gears be louder? What kind of sound am I going to hear and when will I hear it?
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02-01-2005, 05:16 PM
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They'll whine; as I've seen described, "like a banshee". Richmond are reported as being particularly bad in this aspect, and particularly loud.
It will be something that you think you can handle at first for the traded amount of strength (the amount is negotiable and perhaps negligible) you will gain over other gears. My advice? Do a lot of searches. There is a lot of this kind of stuff about gear whine, particularly Richmond. Then do some searches about Motive and GM gears just to give yourself a comparison. After doing a lot of searching I arrived at a conclusion of getting Motives...and yes I did consider Richmond even though they have reported problems of whine and difficulty in setting up.
It will be something that you think you can handle at first for the traded amount of strength (the amount is negotiable and perhaps negligible) you will gain over other gears. My advice? Do a lot of searches. There is a lot of this kind of stuff about gear whine, particularly Richmond. Then do some searches about Motive and GM gears just to give yourself a comparison. After doing a lot of searching I arrived at a conclusion of getting Motives...and yes I did consider Richmond even though they have reported problems of whine and difficulty in setting up.
02-01-2005, 05:50 PM
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02-01-2005, 06:18 PM
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So you think the noise will be really reallly loud? Can anyone with richmond 3.73 gears chime in? If the noise is really that bad then I'll go with motive.
02-01-2005, 08:22 PM
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I had 2 sets of Richmond gears in my GTA. The first set was installed incorrectly and whined like crazy. The second set I installed with a friend of mine. There was a slight bit of whine between 30 to 40 mph. If you were talking with someone in the car you couldn't hear it.
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Set up is more crucial to whine than anything else. My Richmond 4.10s in the stock 10 bolt were the quietest gears I ever *didn't* hear! It lasted ~4 years, and when the guy who bought my 10 bolt found out I had Richmond 4.10s in it he was 
and in total disbelief.
My Strange 12 bolt whines like a ****** now, 'not sure what 4.10 gears are in it.
Set up, set up, set up....
and in total disbelief.My Strange 12 bolt whines like a ****** now, 'not sure what 4.10 gears are in it.
Set up, set up, set up....
02-01-2005, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1ScrudeDude
Set up is more crucial to whine than anything else. My Richmond 4.10s in the stock 10 bolt were the quietest gears I ever *didn't* hear! It lasted ~4 years, and when the guy who bought my 10 bolt found out I had Richmond 4.10s in it he was and in total disbelief.
My Strange 12 bolt whines like a ****** now, 'not sure what 4.10 gears are in it.
Set up, set up, set up....
and in total disbelief.My Strange 12 bolt whines like a ****** now, 'not sure what 4.10 gears are in it.
Set up, set up, set up....
02-01-2005, 09:06 PM
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I got the 3.73's richmond of course and i love them. A little noise at about 65-70 bu nothing that ur exhaust or stereo wont cover. its more of a whur sound. Nothing bad. I had my mechanic put them in cause he used to drag and he said the he recomended richmonds cause he went thru other gears quikly and that the richmonds lasted the longest.