ShooterSS

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I have a Vig3200 / Transgo / B&M Cooler. Damn torque management pulls the timing hardcore on the 1-2 shift when only at like 1/4 - 1/3 throttle. Down to 2* of timing. <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0">

I e-mailed Jayson at MTI and he said he could have it removed via a reprogram. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">

Some say 'yeah' and some say 'nay' to having it removed. What do you guys think?

It really is a PITA. Also, Patrick G. made a post about linking your line pressure to your TPS readings instead of your MAF. Anyone else have any thoughts or theories on this one?

Colonel, I know you're out there... <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">

BIGBOS

My friend has the same problem...the the 1-2 is hard but sometimes as soon as its gets in 2nd it holds at 4 grand...I think programming will eventually fix it

Bob2of3

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I'd say get rid of torque management if you got the Transgo installed. I guy was experiencing big time probloms with TM kicking in with his Vig3200 and now he's like 3-4 tenths faster with it removed

Getting your line p[ressure adjustment to just look at the TPS is a good idea since there is no way to get around TM. If you break the trans force motor ckt(or something like that) it will do the smae thing but since you can get everything taken care of through programming I'd go that route

LAter <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">

ShooterSS

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Thanks Bob. Hey, were you one of the guys in that thread we had going about the timing in the '01-'02s? You had some good info and ideas in there if that was you. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">

What do you drive?

Bob2of3

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Here's a sig for ya. Right now I'm getting my heads ported and going to see how quick I can go with the 01 LS6 cam(hey it was free <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> ) Also getting the new engine back together is consuming most of my time now

LAter <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">

WILWAXU

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Welcome to my hell!

The weird thing for my car was how it started. I had ZERO problem till mid summer. Ran 12.1's and 0's earlier in the year with no troubles, with no changes the timing reduction on the 1-2 shift started getting longer and longer.

I've yet to get a complete "clean pass" with UT-4600 because of this, but I have found away around it. I've started lowering my shift points down with the HPP to avoid it. This seems to work for now...

I plan to get custom program as soon as possible, I know I'm giving ALOT up because of this.

Superman

I drove PaulG`s car with it removed and it was like the car didn`t shift at all... I didn`t like it... maybe cause going from stick to auto was bad enough, not feeling the shifts was even worse.

ShooterSS

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Hey WAX, LOWERING the shift points helps? Interesting...

Dan, what do you mean. Was it super smooth or real slushy?

Thanks for the insight guys.

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WILWAXU

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Yeah, believe it or not! I tried it on a whim, and it seem to work.

I've got some great A-tap files of the problem... -11 on the timing for 4 cycles of the A-tap! <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0">

I had my shift points at -4 on the 1-2 and -1 on the 2-3. I need to drop the 2-3 down another notch.. but doesn't matter now, I installed a 12 bolt w/3.73 this weekend. Time to start over <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">

Superman

[quote]Originally posted by ShooterSS:
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Dan, what do you mean. Was it super smooth or real slushy?

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just couldn`t feel the shift... only drove it for a few block and didn`t get on it really so you`d have to see for your self.. I just couldn`t "feel" the shift

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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My PCM will be leaving Ed Wright's tomorrow. My 1-2 shift point was at a measly 5,400 RPM, and the tq. mgt. has been bad since I bought the car. I told Ed to set my line pressure up to vary directly with the TPS, and he said it wasn't a problem. I'm anxious to get it back to see how much better the shifts feel. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">

WILWAXU

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Yeah, Trevor Keep me informed.

I've heard good things about Ed's work lately, but I don't want to loose the adjustability of the HPP.

ShooterSS

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[quote]Originally posted by WILWAXU:
<strong>Yeah, Trevor Keep me informed.

I've heard good things about Ed's work lately, but I don't want to loose the adjustability of the HPP.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ditto! <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">

I think I'm gonna go with MTI just for that reason. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">

That and I think someone, not sure of his name, on this board had some good things to say about MTI. <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Kenny H

Ed Wright had tightened up my line pressure at part throttle on my old PCM. I told him to put it back to stock on my new PCM from him. IMO, isn't tightening line pressure at part throttle bad? A friend of mine had his A4 is his '97 LT1 crap out on him very shortly after having the line pressure increased....

Paulie

[quote]Originally posted by ShooterSS:
<strong>Dan, what do you mean. Was it super smooth or real slushy?
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With the converter (and Mobil1 ATF), it shifted so fast and the converter slipped enough that at part throttle, it shifted like a snap of your fingers. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> Similar to a motorcycle shifting. <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> Going down the track is was smooth.

With the FLP Level4 trans (DexronIII) and the TP4600, I can feel the 1-2 shift, but not the 2-3. I think it's more of a function of the monster converter currently.

Lockup in 4th is sick with the new converter, so much so that I now drive in 3rd, and only go to 4th on the highway. Plus, keeps the temps down.

Paulie needs a gear... a TP4600 and 3.23's is not for the faint of heart. <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0">

Q

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on the average..how long does it take (from Door to Door) to get your PCM reprogrammed?

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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If you think the TP4600 is bad with a 4L60E, you should try it in a TH350 with a 2.45:1 1st gear trans ratio! <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0">
I'll let everyone know how the tuning feels, looks via ATap, etc. once I get some seat time with it. I would've taken the MTI route on tuning as well if there was an HPP3 available for my car. But, considering that Hypertech just released the '01 programmers, I knew not to hold my breath waiting for the '02's. I don't mind not having the shift point adjustability with this car because I'm not looking to run N2O (for now anyways), and I'm not planning on changing too much anytime soon. The 6,200 RPM shift point will be great; I just couldn't live with the LOW factory shift points.
ShooterSS - I have no idea who you could be referring to. <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">

RPM WS6

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Does anybody know why TM seems to be worse on the ‘01s and up? Seems that you don’t see too many older LS1s with this problem. Also, have any of you guys seen any cases of FLP or Yank trannies causing TM issues, or just the Transgo kits?

flyin red TA

Does anyone know what years have torque management? Do all LS1s have it?

My 98 will spin crazystyle into 2nd at 3/4 throttle...but at full throttle nothing really happens at all. I don't get it.

ShooterSS

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From what I've read, all over the friggin place, is that they ALL have TM. Little in the '98, little bit more in 99-00 and a big ole helping in the 01-02. Go figure. Seems to be most prevelant with thoses running a Transgo. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">