Noisey Moser 12 bolt pole
05-17-2005, 09:14 PM
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I'm installing a USA richmond gearset/solid pinion spacer/strange forged yolk and bearings this weekend.Mine was complete from a 6k car I bought used,I was suprised at how quiet it was until a few 1.8X 60' passes.Its ungodly loud on decel and steady speed.Funny thing is,I installed motives in my factory 10 bolt and ran 1.8X 60's also and it whined slightly but not like this freakin 12 bolt.
05-17-2005, 09:51 PM
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I have a Strange and the whine was there from the beginning . After the track it was down right redicules it is so bad driving the car was not possible the whine is that intense. May be i am just an isolated case dew to the incredible noise i have. Or two bad set up's that have been done on the rear ?
05-17-2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave@KTS
This is may thought also. When we build a 12 bolt it has braces on the bottom like a truss and 4130 bars slightly pre-loaded pulling
on the front of the tubes. We also use a very stout DOM or
4130 axles tubes. These rears hold tolerances very well and
very long. I would like to shoot my fixture through one of these
noisey units if someone local is willing. I honestly have no customers
that have called me with this problem. Are these noisey units a
complete bought bolt in straight from Moser?
Dave K
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on the front of the tubes. We also use a very stout DOM or
4130 axles tubes. These rears hold tolerances very well and
very long. I would like to shoot my fixture through one of these
noisey units if someone local is willing. I honestly have no customers
that have called me with this problem. Are these noisey units a
complete bought bolt in straight from Moser?
Dave K
KTS Race Cars
05-17-2005, 11:55 PM
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Mine has seen only 2 6k slick launches, 2 3k slick launches, and several drag radial launches. It wines on decel but not enough to be annoying. It did not wine at all until after I went to the track. Its not bad but I suspect as I hit more launches itll get worse.
4.10s here.
4.10s here.
05-18-2005, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave@KTS
This is may thought also. When we build a 12 bolt it has braces on the bottom like a truss and 4130 bars slightly pre-loaded pulling
on the front of the tubes. We also use a very stout DOM or
4130 axles tubes. These rears hold tolerances very well and
very long. I would like to shoot my fixture through one of these
noisey units if someone local is willing. I honestly have no customers
that have called me with this problem. Are these noisey units a
complete bought bolt in straight from Moser?
Dave K
KTS Race Cars
on the front of the tubes. We also use a very stout DOM or
4130 axles tubes. These rears hold tolerances very well and
very long. I would like to shoot my fixture through one of these
noisey units if someone local is willing. I honestly have no customers
that have called me with this problem. Are these noisey units a
complete bought bolt in straight from Moser?
Dave K
KTS Race Cars
05-18-2005, 09:08 AM
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Man, I was looking to replace my rear-end with a 12 bolt over the summer, glad I read this, guess I'm going with something else now, can't stand whiney noises.
05-18-2005, 09:14 AM
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i have a moser 12 bolt...5k on it...whined since day one...410 motive gears ...all put together by moser...
whines on accelration only! none on decel... and clunks on turns..
its a complete peice of ****... not only do i feel ripped off...i should of jus kept my 10 bolt... total waste of money
whines on accelration only! none on decel... and clunks on turns..
its a complete peice of ****... not only do i feel ripped off...i should of jus kept my 10 bolt... total waste of money
05-18-2005, 09:40 AM
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Mine whined slightly when it was new, but after a few launches on drag radials (none better than 1.78 BTW) its very noise on coast/decel between ~40-60, and somewhat noisy on accel at those speeds. By 70mph it gets somewhat quiet again. So needless to say I drive at least 70 on the highways 
05-18-2005, 11:11 AM
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I have a Moser 33 Spline TA cover Eaton HD with 342 gears with 700 miles on it with several hard launches on the street and one 10 sec pass at the track with Mickey Thompson drag radials. The rear has been whine free from the beginning. I try to listen for any whine and can't seem to hear anything but my exhaust. I had somone sit in the back seat and they could not hear anything abnormal. I guess I just got lucky or I don't have enough time and miles on mine yet?
My old stock 10 bolt with 273 gears was starting to whine pretty good when I took it out of the car a few months back. Three of the teeth were rolled over pretty good and had lots of slop I am sure that is why it made noise.
I forgot to mention that I use Lucas 85W\90 in the 12 bolt.
I had somone sit in the back seat and they could not hear anything abnormal. I guess I just got lucky or I don't have enough time and miles on mine yet?My old stock 10 bolt with 273 gears was starting to whine pretty good when I took it out of the car a few months back. Three of the teeth were rolled over pretty good and had lots of slop I am sure that is why it made noise.
I forgot to mention that I use Lucas 85W\90 in the 12 bolt.
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05-18-2005, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 02 Pewter LS1
I have a Moser 33 Spline TA cover Eaton HD with 342 gears with 700 miles on it with several hard launches on the street and one 10 sec pass at the track with Mickey Thompson drag radials. The rear has been whine free from the beginning. I try to listen for any whine and can't seem to hear anything but my exhaust. I had somone sit in the back seat and they could not hear anything abnormal. I guess I just got lucky or I don't have enough time and miles on mine yet?
My old stock 10 bolt with 273 gears was starting to whine pretty good when I took it out of the car a few months back. Three of the teeth were rolled over pretty good and had lots of slop I am sure that is why it made noise.
I had somone sit in the back seat and they could not hear anything abnormal. I guess I just got lucky or I don't have enough time and miles on mine yet?My old stock 10 bolt with 273 gears was starting to whine pretty good when I took it out of the car a few months back. Three of the teeth were rolled over pretty good and had lots of slop I am sure that is why it made noise.
05-18-2005, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BBQLS1
How long have you had it?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/gears-axles/306150-very-happy-my-new-moser-12bolt.html
05-18-2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hardtop00SS
does anyone recommend me rebuilding my Moser? Any suggestions at all??
I will ask a similiar question.
Has anybody taken one of these whiney basturds to
a axle shop yet?
If so did they fix the problem?
05-18-2005, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BAD86Z28
Dave, I have seen your work on Tims 8.8 housing, nice work BTW. I have a Moser 9" without any bracing and I have gone 1.31 60' in a 3320 lb Camaro with out any problems. I have built 2 12 bolts for APE when they were in business and I had no issues. Maybe it's just the guys setting them up at Moser, I don't know.
They offer a good product for the price. I know that the 9" third
members I have bought have all been great. Maybe the 12 bolt guy
there is not doing the right thing. I think that we have enough
leverage here to get the answer we deserve. I will place the call
by the end of the week.
Dave K
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05-18-2005, 08:01 PM
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Just to keep you guys oriented on this thread, my Strange is as loud as all the Mosers out there. So it isn't just Mosers.
And the more I race it at the track, the louder it gets.
FYI...
And the more I race it at the track, the louder it gets.
FYI...
05-18-2005, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 00RedWs6
damn I havent even driven mine yet, this makes me pissed. I guess if I ever break the posi ill get the TruTrac with 4.11s and see how that does.
Think thier the same foriegn castings?
05-18-2005, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1ScrudeDude
Just to keep you guys oriented on this thread, my Strange is as loud as all the Mosers out there. So it isn't just Mosers.
And the more I race it at the track, the louder it gets.
FYI...
And the more I race it at the track, the louder it gets.
FYI...
Same Foriegn castings?
