Noisey Moser 12 bolt pole
05-20-2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BAD86Z28
I was trained at DTS and I can not believe they couldn't get the gear quiet. Just goes to show that it's not in the set up just in the manufacturing process.
I also have done a lot of dealings with DTS, and they are very knoledgeable people. That just reinforces the fact that it is the housing.
05-20-2005, 10:03 PM
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Update: The original gear appears to be a US gear.I used the original pinion shim of .020 and came out perfect on richmonds required pinion depth.I then used the original carrier shims and had .016 backlash as before,I swapped .010 shim over to the gear side and backlash came in at .04.The carrier slide in to loose for my liking so adding a .08 to the
right side got me a required .08 B/L and a tight carrier.The sweet part was after painting the ring gear the pattern was text book on drive and coast,right in the freakin center.Tomorrow I'll tear it down and final assemble. This was to easy,I'm worried now.
right side got me a required .08 B/L and a tight carrier.The sweet part was after painting the ring gear the pattern was text book on drive and coast,right in the freakin center.Tomorrow I'll tear it down and final assemble. This was to easy,I'm worried now.
05-21-2005, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mzoomora
There was an old thread about why they were noisy, and this was the same thing I said. Poor QC during manufacture, and poor set-ups. I think most of it has to do with manufature. Could be material thickness, material quality, centerlines of bearing bores, etc. You dont see many complaints from the OEM housings.
I also have done a lot of dealings with DTS, and they are very knoledgeable people. That just reinforces the fact that it is the housing.
I also have done a lot of dealings with DTS, and they are very knoledgeable people. That just reinforces the fact that it is the housing.
I worked at DTS for a while and learned alot. I think that the material might be the problem. Just because most people hear the gear noise after they have broken in the gear in and make a trip to the dragstrip.
05-21-2005, 08:42 PM
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Finished to final assembly.The pinion spacer/shim setup took time and came out to .027 to get 12 inch.pds. drag.I used the original 1350 yolk for setup and my God was it warped when I spun it,no doubt from when the driveshaft/u-joint scattered.Setup the carrier and backlash at .008 and checked the pattern again and it matched up from the mock-up,perfect.Put it back together and went for a break in 10 miles.What a difference! No vibration at all,no clunk-clunk-clunks when rolling down to a stop,and no screaming on decel.All I have is an audible whine from 45-55 in 5th-6th,with the radio on its not noticeable.I don't know if it will stay this way but it was worth it in my case because of my other issues besides gear whine.
05-22-2005, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by glennster
Finished to final assembly.The pinion spacer/shim setup took time and came out to .027 to get 12 inch.pds. drag.I used the original 1350 yolk for setup and my God was it warped when I spun it,no doubt from when the driveshaft/u-joint scattered.Setup the carrier and backlash at .008 and checked the pattern again and it matched up from the mock-up,perfect.Put it back together and went for a break in 10 miles.What a difference! No vibration at all,no clunk-clunk-clunks when rolling down to a stop,and no screaming on decel.All I have is an audible whine from 45-55 in 5th-6th,with the radio on its not noticeable.I don't know if it will stay this way but it was worth it in my case because of my other issues besides gear whine.
05-23-2005, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim @ EADPerformance
I probably can't make it down there until next week sometime. Any day/time that works for you or just whenever? You want me to bring just the rearend or the entire car?
05-25-2005, 08:12 AM
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for some reason im not sure why.... if you dont set them up "correctly" the first time it screws it for life..... after it whines you cant stop it..
just my .02$
just my .02$
05-25-2005, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
for some reason im not sure why.... if you dont set them up "correctly" the first time it screws it for life..... after it whines you cant stop it..
just my .02$
just my .02$
This has GOT to be material-quality issue. And I have yet to hear a quiet 12 bolt after hard strip passes.
05-25-2005, 01:51 PM
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I must have a freak moser 12 bolt mine does not make any noise at all!!!! i dont know if it is because i had Speed Inc. install the gears or what but it is like it is stock!!!! i happy with my 12 bolt!!!
Scott
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05-25-2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver 00 SS
I must have a freak moser 12 bolt mine does not make any noise at all!!!! i dont know if it is because i had Speed Inc. install the gears or what but it is like it is stock!!!! i happy with my 12 bolt!!!
Scott
Scott
like LCA's or TOrque arm or urethane bushings?
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05-25-2005, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver 00 SS
I must have a freak moser 12 bolt mine does not make any noise at all!!!! i dont know if it is because i had Speed Inc. install the gears or what but it is like it is stock!!!! i happy with my 12 bolt!!!
Scott
Scott
when you have a quality install all should work out...... like i said... always.... always disassemble the rear... then take your time on the "hell & toe" line up
05-25-2005, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave@KTS
Do you have any aftermarket suspension components
like LCA's or TOrque arm or urethane bushings?
Dave K
like LCA's or TOrque arm or urethane bushings?
Dave K
05-25-2005, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 1ScrudeDude
Guys.....the ones with the still quiet rear.....any hard launches on sticky tires?
If the answer is "yes," color me impressed. Serious.
If the answer is "yes," color me impressed. Serious.
1.56 60' with 4.10 gears
that was stock internals...
just swapped cams and intake and TB... will see 1.4x... waiting on
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