10 bolt, 4:10?
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10 bolt, 4:10? I need some 4:10s BAD in my large cam only, 6sp TA. I really don't have the money for a 9" right now so I was thinking about having a local speed shop install some Motive 4:10s. My car only has 29k and is not a daily driver. I play around with it on the street but don't dump the clutch that hard. I have only had it at the track once and I was dumping it at 3500 and it was hooking and not breaking anything BUT the car is just such a turd outta the hole, it was only 60's 2.0s on Nitto DRs. You guys think I can get by for a while with the 4:10s in the stock ******* 10b or it is a total waste of money?? I think the 4:10s will really help my driveability(cam surge) and make the car feel much more responsive around town but I don't have $2k for a rear so.... I can gamble with $500-600 but... The car will go to the track occassionally but mainly its a street cruiser. I do want it to be relatively launchable say 3500 or so on DRs. Once I get some good numbers out of it, I probably won't take it back to the track for awhile but I NEED some good numbers for braggin rights ya know... What yall think? 
3500 on DRs w/4.10s in a 10bolt w/a 6spd car probably won't last too long. i'd take the money you'd spend on that and put it towards a rear end, unless its going to be a LONG time before you can afford one. in which case stick with the shitty drivability and stronger gears.
yea dont do it...i broke 2 sets of 4.10's in my 10-bolt just daily driving and doing some hard driving on the street. no clutch dumps over 2500 and all on street tires. save your money. wait on a good 12-bolt/9"
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yeah 10/4.. I was just wanting something to get me by. I am saving for a house so I can't dump $2k anytime soon. Guess I will stick with it but the car is SUCH a terd with the 3.42s All my power is 4000rpms and up..
I would say do it, but I did it and I broke the carrier at the track. It did'nt hurt the gears though. The carrier was on it's last leg anyways. But I did like how it felt with the 4.10's. I just got a 9" now with 4.11's.
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JR I am still kinda thinking about doing it. I just can't penny up $2-2400 for a rear now and my car needs gears bad. I will probably not take it to the track until I can get a 9" but I need something for the street. If I roll away from a stop light easy and hammer it at about 10mph, the car is a flat out turd until 4000-4500 rpms. It just has no bottom end torque. I am wondering if the Motive 4:10s with the 41/10 setup will live just street driving it and hammering it from rolls, not even going from a dead stop? Car makes 400rwhp and 550+ on the squirt which I rarely even use. The car is on Nittos(but it never spins em from a roll) an only gets driven on the weekends. I can do the gear swap for $600, for what I want thats a lot better then $2k. I am a gambling man, I think I might try it. I don't drag race the car hard just play with other cars on the street from a street roll mainly. DAMN decisions..
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Its the luck of the draw with this stuff.. I've launched mine at over 4000 rpm (mostly around 5k, some over 6k) at the track with a stock rearend and 4.10's on DR's.. no problems at all, just don't dump the clutch.. use clutch slippage and tirespin in your favor.
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If you dont have the money for the rear, I'd just do the gear swap. $600 sounds kinda high for a gearswap though. You can get a set of gears for like $180 or $190 and if you talk to some people I bet you can find somone to install them for a good price. I've found two people by where I live to do the install for $150 and I KNOW that they are awesome at setting up the rearends.
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Originally Posted by 97MysticZ
If you dont have the money for the rear, I'd just do the gear swap. $600 sounds kinda high for a gearswap though. You can get a set of gears for like $180 or $190 and if you talk to some people I bet you can find somone to install them for a good price. I've found two people by where I live to do the install for $150 and I KNOW that they are awesome at setting up the rearends.
G-Force quoted me $189 for the gears, $39 for the install kit, $350 for labor + fluids. so I figured with tax about $620 or so. I know I can get the gears a little cheaper and the install kit a little cheaper but... G-force does decent work so I don't mind supporting the locals to some degree.
Yeah I am going to try it out. I got my *** drug by a stock Z06 this weekend. 20 roll, I was in 1st, he was in 2nd, I got the move, he walked away. Finally in 3rd he quit pulling but by then was already 2-3 cars ahead of me..
I gotta get some gears to help this turd pull away from its own shadow.. 
I have 4.10 in a stock 10blt and broke the first set. Ring and pinion trashed. Being a poor a$$ I bought a set of Richmond 4.10's and put them in. I actually ripped the M6 apart(second gear completely gone) before I trashed those gears and they are still holding strong. I say go for it just be cautious and make sure you put in a good set of gears. You'll love em
I have a 10bolt with 4.10s and have never dumped the clutch but I have done some 4000rpm launches with slipping the clutch. Im still running the same setup but well see how another 200hp does with it when I get my car back! Id say put the 4.10's in... Do what u normally do and then if it does break... be ready not to drive that puppy for a couple of weekends! Goodluck with the 10bolt and 4.10's and goodluck finding your new home!