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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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I will be needing computer programming when I go up on my boost and was wondering what else to have done. What is torque management? Should I get rid of it? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />

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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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At a minimum it's the pcm pulling timing during A4 shifts. There may be some other effects, but they seem hard to quantify.
Is it worth pulling out? Some say it has improved their ET, others say it's there to protect the trans during shifts, so why pull it.
Judgement call.
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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Default Re: what is torque management?

Also, it seems the 01s and 02s have TM to a higher degree than earlier models.
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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It's that sudden flat spot or powerstall
under throttle.Also shows up as flat
spot on up shift of A4.
LS1-edit supposedly has capability to
Change TM so it's only on when TCS is
switched on. Also can adjust degree of
TM using edit? One of these options
would be the way to go <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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so If I leave my TCS off torque management won't be on either?


can't I remove a fuse for deleting my TCS? which is it? does the fuse work anything else?
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 02:02 PM
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Edit reconfigures TM so it's tied to TCS
Only way to pull fuse,also cancels ABS
system and sets code <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
If TM what that simple to get rid of
there would be alot less cars with it
than without <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 02:38 PM
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i dont know the big deal...i know paulie from the old LS1.com and from my local car club had his removed when he had some reprogramming done at MTI
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You'll benefit from deleting tq. mgt. ET-wise, but it will be harder on the trans, no doubt. My car had tq. mgt. REALLY bad after the Vig converter went in, and it was a little worse after the TransGo shift kit was installed as well. The car would fall on its face on the shifts. It's a very evident hesitation as soon as the shift occurs, and you could even see my car nose dive some when it happened.
Since EW deleted it from my PCM, it's been a LOT better to drive, both part-throttle and WOT. It continues to charge hard through the shifts. I'd personally delete it if I were you. You'll have to get a built trans at some point anyways with the power you're looking at, so you might as well make the most of it. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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[quote]Originally posted by las vegas hawk:
<strong>It's that sudden flat spot or powerstall
under throttle.Also shows up as flat
spot on up shift of A4.
LS1-edit supposedly has capability to
Change TM so it's only on when TCS is
switched on. Also can adjust degree of
TM using edit? One of these options
would be the way to go <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>

So if what your saying is correct, my decision last week when I went to MTI to get gears, a converter, shift kit and torque management deleted is going to be a good decision? When in 3, if I floor it I hit a huge flat spot for a sec and then the rpms fly up and whack the rev limiter and then it shifts. If your telling me that this is caused by torque management, I'll be so glad to have it gone. Please tell me that flat spot will leave
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Sure can't hurt. But yeah the flat spot
at shift and to a degree following it
is TM.If your going from TM flat spot
to limiter,sounds like you need to adjust
shift point and limiter. IMHO <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Someone else told me to adjust my shift points and limiter but I can't see how since it's basically stock except for the exhust, lid, and filter?
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 05:45 AM
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When did TM start on the f-bodies? It was in 98 with the Ls1 right? I am trying to figure out if any of the LT1 A4s came with it. I know mine didn't, as I can see based on Datamaster testing I've done on my 95.
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Patman - I don't know if TM began with OBDII in '96 or if it did start w/ the added power of the LS1 in '98. I'd be interested to know as well.
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