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Old 04-17-2002, 04:32 PM
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Default Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

I'm having issues with the top torque arm bolts backing out all the time where it bolts to the rear. I don't know why Moser didn't design the rear to use 2 long bolts with a nut on the bottom like the stock rear. These bolts are really short. Even with loctite and lock washers they are backing out after some hard launches. Is this happening to anyone else?
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Mine is working well?

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I am having the same problem as Phil . I have no idea why it keeps loosining up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

Mine is doing the same thing.

JS yours will die very soon as well.

Cartek installed mine too without lock washers. I had to drive all the way back up there to get it fixed.

Then it has loosened up a little from launching hard on the street a little and I had to torque it back down a little.

Stealth Torque arms are nice, but a pain in the *** with Moser 12 bolts.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by verbs:
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

idea is to do it right the first time.. if it comes loose once, odds are it will continue comming loose because the holes are wallowing out from the start.

i did what the instructions said and tightend the **** out of em with all i could get on it. and they have been fine for about 15k miles now.

i would buy new bolts and washers and inspect the threads in the hole as well as the torque arm itself.
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

I have the exact same problem here. No matter how tight I make the bolts they still come loose. Really starting to **** me off. <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> Moser 12 bolt
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

damn I thought I was the only one. is there anyway to maybe get longer bolts to go all the way through the housing and put nylon nuts on the one side and have lock washers on both sides? Im not sure if you can get nuts on the back side but If you could I bet this would be the best way to get the to stop from backing out.
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

Yep, that is a common problem with 12 bolts - don't know of a cure at the moment other than using locktite.

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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

Mine did at first, but then I used red loctite and torqued them to 100 ft/lbs and they have not backed out since.

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JB Weld?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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READ LOCTITE is correct,

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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

Why do they use a different set up than stock?

The Strange bolts in exactly like the stocker.
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<img src="http://www.flow-technics.com/customers/ryan/torquearm.jpg" alt="" />

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I use locktite now.....

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Hey that pic rigs a bell. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> FINALLY got the car up and running for more than a week with the new 12 bolt. Then the second week. SNAP goes the torq. arm. I am awating my BMR as we speak. I'm going to get mine Tight this time or shure and SOAK them in loctite. I wish i had the instructions with mine' it got lost in shipment so i had no clue to get them that tight. Oh well took two weeks to get the moser here. I guess another week wont kill me. Tim 98z
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

What are the symptoms/signs of the bolts loosening up? My Moser is "clunking" and i'm not sure what it is.
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

Ditto on what ChrisB and Justin said. Red loctite and tighten the CRAP out of them.
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

tack the bolt in one spot to the torque arm, it cannot come loos unless the weld is broken, but can be quickly ground off if necessary.
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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

I suspect everyone who has problems can't get it tight enough. To put enough leverage is very difficult with a torque wrench unless you have access to a lift, or very high ramps like a Kwik Lift which I use. And those bolts loosen up when hot. I tightened mine to 100ft/lbs when the rear is hot after a long drive.

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Default Re: Anyone having problems with Moser 12 bolt and torque arm bolts?

Symtoms i had was the rear felt a little loose a low steady speeds like crusing through a neighborhood at 25mph. The car would buckle.



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