9 vs dana 60
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thanxs alot u guys, u guys been help full now i no either or will b good right? well thanxs and ill let u guys no what i got cause i could get the d60 like 300 dollars cheaper than the 9, same warranty and everything and they both just bolt in just that they say that with the d60 im going 2 need to weld the sway bar is it true or doest bolt in. do they both just bolt in ?
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Originally Posted by white mongoose
thanxs alot u guys, u guys been help full now i no either or will b good right? well thanxs and ill let u guys no what i got cause i could get the d60 like 300 dollars cheaper than the 9, same warranty and everything and they both just bolt in just that they say that with the d60 im going 2 need to weld the sway bar is it true or doest bolt in. do they both just bolt in ?
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thanxs alot meentss02 hope they come weld it but if not **** it ill just get the spohn kit that bolts on. hey one more thing DOES THE ALLUMINUM COVER HELPS OUT THE REAR END HERD SOME ONE SAID THAT TRUE OR JUST 4 LOOKS THANXS
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My Strange S60 had everything in place. I ordered mine with the backing plates on and everything. Add fluid and bolt it. I helper would have been nice as that thing was ******* heavy. I actually rolled it of the pallet and onto my floor tranny jack.
One thing that you should know is that the S60 requires a shorter driveshaft than stock. Not sure about the 9". When I priced it against the Strange 12 bolt, the S60 was cheaper but once you figure in the new driveshaft and the extra freight from the weight diffence, it's a wash.
I am happy to say that mine only makes a very faint howl at 65 under no load. Very quiet compared to any aftermarket rear that I have heard. I love it.
One thing that you should know is that the S60 requires a shorter driveshaft than stock. Not sure about the 9". When I priced it against the Strange 12 bolt, the S60 was cheaper but once you figure in the new driveshaft and the extra freight from the weight diffence, it's a wash.
I am happy to say that mine only makes a very faint howl at 65 under no load. Very quiet compared to any aftermarket rear that I have heard. I love it.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
One thing that you should know is that the S60 requires a shorter driveshaft than stock. Not sure about the 9".
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so if the 60 is stronger... and the 9 is used in drag cars all the way up to top fuel... is there really any physical reason besides ease of gear change that differentiates the 2?
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is there really any physical reason besides ease of gear change that differentiates the 2?
Another advantage of the 9" is the many, many gear ratio's offered. The 9" has probably 3x more ratio's available than the others.
Also, there's more than just the removable center that makes gear changes easier. . . The shimmed pinion support helps a ton also. No more pressing bearings on and off the pinion to change shims.
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
so if the 60 is stronger... and the 9 is used in drag cars all the way up to top fuel... is there really any physical reason besides ease of gear change that differentiates the 2?
Like engineer mike said, there is no need to remove the pinion bearing to shim the pinion depth, there are no carrier shims- just spanners to adjust, you can build it on the bench instead of under the car or having to remove the complete rear.
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Originally Posted by engineermike
With the Ford 9" long yoke, you can use the stock driveshaft.
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Dana 60 are the strongest hands down, but they are tough on the fingers if you build your own. 9" for is more user friendly due to it being modular. and like what was said before, you can have your "street" gear or "strip" gear ready to bolt on if you have two center section built. and they have a HUGE after market.
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Originally Posted by LSXNV
Dana 60 are the strongest hands down. . .
Here's an interesting comparison of the 2:
http://www.sunrayengineering.com/nine.html
And another:
http://www.truehi9.com/gears2.html
Cliff's notes:
- Ford 9" pinion is significantly larger than a D60, closer to the size of a D80.
- Ford 9" ring gear is thicker.
- Ford 9" pinion is supported on both sides.
- Ford 9" has greater vertical pinion offset, giving it more teeth in mesh.
- Ford 9" pinion teeth are at a steeper angle, putting more teeth in mesh.
- Ford 9" has thicker teeth.
- Ford 9" is lighter than D60.
- Ford 9" main caps are larger and thicker than D60.
And, all these don't even mention how much easier it is to build and work on a 9".
Mike
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Very true, but if the car is going to be launching hard, I do suggest a new driveshaft as the stock ones to break on occasion. Bob
Wasn't aware they stk length DS could work w/ a 9". That just sold me right there as I want to keep my ACPT CFDS.
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFEDLS1Z
Is anybody running the 9" or the S60 with a lowered car. I heard that you can't run a 9" with a lowered car. Any truth to this rumor?????
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You can, but you'll need to do some clearancing (the torque arm mount mainly). Go on to Speed Inc's website, and look up INTMD8's car...there is a whole section of the website dedicated to it with pictures. You'll see pics of the underside when it was being painted...pay close attention to the clearancing that was done where the torque arm was interfering.
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I like both the Strange S60 ($2295) and the Moser 9” ($2400 truetrac) but I think the S60 is getting my vote and will be the one i purchase next week. I think you’re getting a little more for your money with the S60 plus you will be able to use your abs brakes (for us with three channel) with the S60 model. I don’t like the idea of ditching my abs brakes.
Only drawback I can see right now is having to shorten your driveshaft with the S60. The S60 is a bit cheaper then the Moser but with the cost of modifying the driveshaft it should be close to being a wash. I have a bit more research to do but I think I’m going with the s60.
http://www.strangeengineering.net/newprod/2006/NewLateFBodyRearendAD1.html
Only drawback I can see right now is having to shorten your driveshaft with the S60. The S60 is a bit cheaper then the Moser but with the cost of modifying the driveshaft it should be close to being a wash. I have a bit more research to do but I think I’m going with the s60.
http://www.strangeengineering.net/newprod/2006/NewLateFBodyRearendAD1.html