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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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First minor thing was the break lines are to short to go through the brackets they provide, we had to go under them and ziptie them to the axle. Looks like I just need longer line...but it be nice if that was mentioned somewhere.

Second, the ABS isn't working...it worked fine before. I just hope they didn't forget to install the reluctor ring like on another post I read.

Third, and this is the biggie...I think they put a spool in the car. I first noticed pulling out of the driveway that the tires were kicking up gravel. So I backed it back in the garage jacked it up...and the wheels will not turn independently. I hope to God that that's just a odd True-Trak thing. But I would hold one wheel while someone else tried to turn the other...and nothin...neither would turn. At highway speeds It felt fine...well pretty much anything over 30, and even under 30 it was just a slight stiffness you can sense in the rear. But, in parking lots the tires chirp a little when you turn sharp.

I'm going to give Strange a call in the morning and see what's up with this. Does anyone know if this is normal though?

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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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I think the posi thing is normal, my stock rear end posi kicks up gravel like that. And as far as being able to spin each wheel a diffrent way that is also a good thing because it means its not slipping. Amagin if you could spin each wheel independently think what its going to do when the car's weight and force is on it.I would say if your turning radious went way up then you might have a spool but if it is just these little kirks then its just the nature of a high quality posi.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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A new tru-trak will be a little tight until the oil/friction modifier work their way into the diff itself.... and it will loosen up a little more after you get a couple of miles on it. If you are that worried about it, find yourself a parking lot and drive a few circles in each direction to work the differential.

Bummer to hear about the ABS and their respective lines. Guess the only way you will find out for sure is to pull the cover.

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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Yeah, we had no more gear oil so we couldn't pull the cover at that time. We also jacked up my friends TA with his 10 bolt and could turn each wheel independently with ease. But, his rear makes a lot of noise so maybe his posi is shot. The rear I took out of the car would not turn independently either and the only problem it had was worn axle bearings.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Both of my wheels turn togeather and I have a Ture Trac. Sounds normal to me
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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I took it for another drive, I think you guys are right. it handles way better around corners then my old rear did. I also took it into a parking lot to do some figure 8s. Turning sharp right caused a slight vibration and the tires to chirp. Left was tight, but smooth. it is something I can easily live with.

Something else I guess is normal with the larger ring gear is it slows down a lot quicker. There is a speed limit change I would always put the car into neutral and coast to, right when I got to the changed speed limit I would be doing it. Now, I am at the upcoming speed limit before I'm even half way to it.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chicane
A new tru-trak will be a little tight until the oil/friction modifier work their way into the diff itself.... and it will loosen up a little more after you get a couple of miles on it. If you are that worried about it, find yourself a parking lot and drive a few circles in each direction to work the differential.

Bummer to hear about the ABS and their respective lines. Guess the only way you will find out for sure is to pull the cover.
I did not put any friction modifier in, because the little tag said to use if needed. Should I toss some in at the next gear oil change?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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I would put some in if you havent
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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A Truetrac, even the preloaded unit, will still turn easily when trying to turn one tire by hand. The other posi units will have some preload and will take some effort to break loose. I think you might want to pull the cover and take a look inside.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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One tire will turn easy by hand, I just can't turn them independently.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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If you do... I would only put in enough to rid yourself of the slight vibration you noticed in your earlier figure 8 test.

I would just throw in about 4oz of friction modifier as not to acclerate clutch pack wear and to smooth it out a little bit..... but wait a few miles before you do and let work a little. You might not need very much at all if the high spots on the clutches wear off.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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just pull the cover. sucks about the brake lines, they lined up perfectly for me and my abs works fine also..
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RoastEmSS
just pull the cover. sucks about the brake lines, they lined up perfectly for me and my abs works fine also..
Maybe it's an LT1 thing?

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If you do... I would only put in enough to rid yourself of the slight vibration you noticed in your earlier figure 8 test.
I would just throw in about 4oz of friction modifier as not to acclerate clutch pack wear and to smooth it out a little bit..... but wait a few miles before you do and let work a little. You might not need very much at all if the high spots on the clutches wear off.
It is my understanding that the True-Track does not have actual clutches?

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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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It's all gear driven so there is no friction plates to wear out over time.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziptie
It is my understanding that the True-Track does not have actual clutches?
Yes.... that is true and you are correct. However, the parafin base in the friction modifier works in mysterious ways to reduce the friction of any metal to metal contact, clutch type or not. I have seen a few true trac's a little tight until they get work hardened from operation. I have found the axis gears and their respective clearence have played the biggest role in this.

Sometimes it is hard to keep up with how many boards there are and whom has what problem again without re-reading the entire thread over so as not to stuff foot into mouth.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chicane
Sometimes it is hard to keep up with how many boards there are and whom has what problem again without re-reading the entire thread over so as not to stuff foot into mouth.
aka stay on LS1LT1 and bug chris with this

my auburn is the same way. you cant spin them independently of each other.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Talked with Tim at Strange.

True-Track Stiffness, he says with worm gears instead of clutches this is normal.

I asked him about what brand gear oil, he says they have no preference as long as it's non-synthetic

ABS issues, he says their information says they installed the reluctor ring, pull the cover makes sure it's there...if it's not then they will find someone in town to fix it for me.

I asked him about the gear whine I'm getting, he says for a high performance rear end a little gear whine is normal. I have heard that any rear can be dead quiet if it is setup properly...but the noise isn't really at a level for me to make an issue out of it if it doesn't get any worse.

I ordered Motive gears and they put in Precession. He said they're the same quality. Any comments on this?

EDIT: I forgot to ask about break line length so I called back and talked with the infamous Tracey. She says most people get longer lines to go around the bigger axles. Understandable, but it be nice if it was listed somewhere in their information that this was necessary.

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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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I, personally, like PG's better than Motives..... its NOT a bad thing at all.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Not to jack the thread or anything, but while we're on the topic of True Tracs; do I have this right??
T2 < bias than True Trac which has < bias than T2R???
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Does anyone know of the Dana 60 alters the ride height of the car in anyway? I was thinking it's possible it could sit higher because of the larger axle tubes...then I figured it could sit lower because the rear is a good bit heavier.

I'm trying to decide if I need adjustable LCAs with 26" tall tires and this rear.
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