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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Okay, I have a weird dilema,,,, I only have enough money to do either a new clutch or a set of new gears.... what would be the best move considering the following... The car has a newer ZOOM MU series clutch, but I'm pretty sure it has the original stock "higher" gears.... anyway, I went to the track for the first time with this car last year, and every time when I launched around 3K RPMs (6spd car), it would bog down.... but if I lunched at around 4K RPMs, it would just burn the drag radials off.... by the end of the night, after several attempts and feathering the clutch for a best time of yucky 8.8 (no nitrous), you could smell the clutch bad.... I was told by one guy, that I should get lower gears to help this problem... also, when I used the Nitrous 2 times, I could feel the clutch slipping and the car was not pulling the same... my question, is shoud I get a new heavier clutch, or should I get 4.10 gears, and maybe this problem will get better.... need expert advice on this.... so that you know, the Nitrous system is RPM/WOT activated, so I am not leaving the line with it shooting.... when I shift to 2nd, it hits, but then the clutch is slipping... any advice welcome.... I know I should do both probably, but the wife has limited the funds.... so I need the best choice... thanks in advance.....
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Clutch. Don't throw your money into the stk rear end. Save it and put it towards a 12 bolt or 9". You're playing with fire running on the stk rear end and sticky's. What's your 60'? If you're under 2 and stk = trouble.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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I def. fix the clutch first if its slipping, if its not broke dont fix it. Just dont go crazy and the rear will be fine, Ive seen people go 10's on a stock 10 bolt, and Ive never had a problem with them in the 3 LS1 cars ive owned
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Well, I guess a new clutch is in order.... eventhough it has a newer clutch,,, so will the gears helping bogging off the line...?? this was the first main issue... the clutch doesn't slip until nitrous is used.... thanks guys...
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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I'm totally digging your car - cool!

I think you have to do the clutch first, because gears with a slipping clutch won't do you any good. However. I went with a spec stage 2 because I was having the same issue. After that, the clutch would hook up so good that the car would bog down like hell because it didn't have enough gear to get moving. After 4.10s, it was ideal.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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I'm totally digging your car - cool!

I think you have to do the clutch first, because gears with a slipping clutch won't do you any good. However. I went with a spec stage 2 because I was having the same issue. After that, the clutch would hook up so good that the car would bog down like hell because it didn't have enough gear to get moving. After 4.10s, it was ideal.
Thanks,,, they only made 473 that year...

Yup,, looks like I will have to petition for more money... lol... I kind of figured this... thanks for the info/help guys... I will sell some stuff off, so that I can do it all in one hit.... gear and clutch...
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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i've heard that if you put on an aluminum light weight flywheel, the clutch doesn't grab to well so stick with a billet steel type.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Thanks, luckily, I already have a Spec Steel Flywheel...

Does anyone know where I can get a good Clutch that doesn't break the bank.. I was thinking a Spec Stage 2?????? asked this question in the clutch area, and no one is helping...
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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What good can gears do you when you cant get the power of the engine to the rear??
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
What good can gears do you when you cant get the power of the engine to the rear??
Yes, already knew this... the clutch doesn't have issues until I use Nitrous at the drag strip, that is the only time I use it, but I have done my home-work and after the above advice (did you read throught the post), I have decided to get a clutch first and do the gears later on... do you know of a good place???
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Yea I read your post (i.e. Block Writing), as I said get something thats going to actually take the power, the only time I ever read/see Zoom clutches is on HPTV, not that I dont trust there opinion but no one I know locally or on any message board parading around about how Zoom clutches are the ****.

As for your launch, you need to be quicker off of the clutch release. That just practice and adjusting tire PSI.

As for gears, you have 3.42's I wouldnt call them exactly highway gears but they are stock, I just have a hard time investing in a 10 bolt. I bought a 12 bolt and never looked back, you may not have that kind of scratch but either way the rear is on borrowed time, so why invest in something you can break on stock power and good suspension and tire.

Get a Spec 3i and enjoy, very streetable and will hold the power, they are not puck style, they are a full friction disk.

Do what you will, buy 4.10 and have them installed. It'll be at least 500 bucks by the time your done with parts and labor. Clutch will be similar but more if you have installed, if you do it yourself you will save.
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
What good can gears do you when you cant get the power of the engine to the rear??
by lowering the ratio and adding 373s or 410s, it allows you go go through the gears quicker. that's why SLP claim losing .5 off your 1/4mile time. it doesn't increase hp at all, just allows you to go thru gears quicker.
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Originally Posted by turbo86
Thanks, luckily, I already have a Spec Steel Flywheel...

Does anyone know where I can get a good Clutch that doesn't break the bank.. I was thinking a Spec Stage 2?????? asked this question in the clutch area, and no one is helping...


a good clutch... most ppl with full oblt on cars and the have some change in their pockets with a dual friction $1,000 set up and i all for that. i'm about due for a new clutch am i'm thinking on either the ram, spec or a LS7.
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FU_I_AM_UltraZ
by lowering the ratio and adding 373s or 410s, it allows you go go through the gears quicker. that's why SLP claim losing .5 off your 1/4mile time. it doesn't increase hp at all, just allows you to go thru gears quicker.
I dont think you get the concept.

If he has a questionable clutch thats going to run some good power and has to decide between the 2, do a proper clutch. If he smokes it, gears aint going to do anyone, any good.
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