MS4 with 4.10?
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MS4 with 4.10? Does anyone have this combo or a heavy cam with these gears. I will be getting a MS4 here in a month or 2 and am seriously debating going back to 3.42s. I won't be taking it to the track, so I'm not scared with the cam because of the rear, it will be a primarily a roll-on car for now until I get the 9". From what I've heard, you'll go shift though gears like it's your job. Anyone?
I have it in a dana 60 with MS4. Car Just flys on a roll. 1st gear is a joke 2nd insnt much better traction wise. But for shifting I dont think its horrible. Stop and go traffic is But what car inst with a stage3 clutch and a large cam.
4.10's will make the driveablity sooooooo much better, on the street. Leave the gears in. My exp is with a car that has a big cam, not MS3/4 range but big and had stock 3.42's, 3.73's and 4.11's with a 12 bolt and by far the 4.11's were the best streetable gear.
Also the cam is a marshmellow in the bottom end, more gears means your getting into the power band quicker and if you have to race 120+ then your stupid and going to get killed.
Also the cam is a marshmellow in the bottom end, more gears means your getting into the power band quicker and if you have to race 120+ then your stupid and going to get killed.
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That is a good point about being a marshmellow down low, don't know why I didn't think of that, but I didn't think the MS3or4 was that bad down low. I didn't think it was as bad as say a TRex.
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3.73 fo sho 
i WISH i had 3.73's in my SS. stock gears won't cut it, but 4.10's are a little shitty when it comes to your MPG, at least mine anyway. My cam is no MS4, but it is decent sized and i do have 4.10's. my old SS was a stock M6, and it turned 1800 RPM at 80 MPH in 6th. My current car is doing just under 70 MPH in 6th, so i gotta turn more revs all over the place for ANY kind of driving.
when i get on it from a stop of slow roll, 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd gear are pretty squirrelly. i wish it had 3.73's, but like stated above, 4.10's DO make it easy to drive.
ultimately it comes down to personal preference and what you do with the car...
i WISH i had 3.73's in my SS. stock gears won't cut it, but 4.10's are a little shitty when it comes to your MPG, at least mine anyway. My cam is no MS4, but it is decent sized and i do have 4.10's. my old SS was a stock M6, and it turned 1800 RPM at 80 MPH in 6th. My current car is doing just under 70 MPH in 6th, so i gotta turn more revs all over the place for ANY kind of driving.
when i get on it from a stop of slow roll, 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd gear are pretty squirrelly. i wish it had 3.73's, but like stated above, 4.10's DO make it easy to drive.
ultimately it comes down to personal preference and what you do with the car...
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1-4-6, makes for really good mpg with 4.10s for me. But on street-tires where is everyone finally getting traction with cam and 4.10s??? I would figure 3rd at probably around 65-75mph I would assume. This is my everyday driver and am atleast trying to thinking economical also. I do drive from North Carolina to Delaware once a month or everyother month. I know that's absolute ironny, but I want more power NOW!!!
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I have a 232/238 cam making 440 to the wheels and have a 9" with 4.30s. I just took out my 4.11s and am extermely happy with the 4.30s. Acceleration is unbelievable. The driveability is actually better. I wouldn't drive my car with anything less than 4.11s. I have had 3.42s, 3.70s, and the 4.11s and 4.30s.
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I mean I'm going to be pushing the 10 bolt and don't really want to break it again. I know the ironny yet again, but that's why I'm not buying some really soft tires, can't break it as easily if you can't shock the rear (down low atleast). The only thing I haven't up-graded are the axles/TA cover and am not going to unless I break one. The axle-tubes are also welded. Why spend the money on that when it can go towards a 9". I figure I should be fine until I get a Moser which will be next. The whole reason for me doing this is that my buddy's car is about to get almost as fast as mine and CAN NOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!! 
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How long did your 10 bolt last??? I have no plans on taking it to the track at all, just to spectate. Roll on car for know, though I don't have the cam yet (August). I'm planning on cam only, and only expecting 400-410 at the wheels for now. That's why I'm trying to get as much feedback as possible before hand to help making a desicion on gear ratio. The TA will be a dyno-queen until I get the rear.
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how so?
Basically there is no need to go faster. Thats is "how so"
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That's what I'm thinking BLACKSCREAMINMACHINE, wrong forum but how low in rpm's can a MS4 go and sustain a higher gear like 5th or 6th with 3.42 and 4.10s.
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The Kid said he races from a roll, even assume its on the highway, there is no need to go that fast, a moron would think he needs to go above that to win. Most races from a roll is from 2nd gear and sometimes can get to 110-120 range.
Basically there is no need to go faster. Thats is "how so"
Basically there is no need to go faster. Thats is "how so"
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There are a few cars that would hand me my ***, but going beyond 120+ isn't and won't happen to much. With 4.10s that's just romping 3rd and 4th and theres 120mph just about. I was just worried with drivability I guess.
Originally Posted by DVS99TRANS
That's what I'm thinking BLACKSCREAMINMACHINE, wrong forum but how low in rpm's can a MS4 go and sustain a higher gear like 5th or 6th with 3.42 and 4.10s.
I am lucky that now with my bolt on car, I can cruise 40mph at 6th and rev 1 to 1.1k
but when I get a cam thats not going to be the way anymore. 