GM Z28 Photos....?
06-23-2009, 01:28 PM
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He wants everyone in a hybrid in one year, how is that anything like being an American? Way to let us have things that we work for, want, and deserve. I don't want this to be another thread on NObama but America's losing more and more rights and freedoms everyday. If I want to buy a 569hp Z-28, Chevy should build it, and I should HAVE the choice to buy it. Damn the man telling my car company they can't build a car that is enthusiast driven. After Chrysler started building cars again last week, do you know which line they started first? The freakin' Viper, the Viper!!! How does that happen, didn't Chrysler and GM both go backrupt and need a bailout? So,.....Chrysler can chose to start building their supercars and GM can't have a choice? It's about more than Obama, recession, and dependency on fossil fuels, but damn, THIS IS AMERICA! You know, baseball, apple pie, and Chevrolet!!! I'll keep my guns, tobacco, muscle cars, and you keep the CHANGE! I want to see the presidential car as a freakin hybrid, he should'nt be able to ride in an American car, like his Cadillac, escorted by half a dozen Tahoe's and Suburbans. Sorry, just a little venting!
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its better then having cherry or tata come in and buy gm which we would have let die if we were being as capitalist as we americans should have been. as a die hard gm fan i would rather have them make the ls9/lsa available as a gmpp in the future then think about the days when american used to be in control of cars that resemble gms of old.
also if we didnt have nut jobs running around looking to make statements and kill people in authority type positions we could have had the president driving around in a impala or something. nothing looks worse for a country to have its leader killed because we couldnt protect him.
06-23-2009, 02:39 PM
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Agreed, GM will still be here but will have Niche brands. Like said they need to get square and you will see a z28 at some point. I will be interested if they would consider this again like a performance model that will have something different/better to offer then the "SS" ver.
06-24-2009, 12:24 PM
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That hood is what they have on the Bumblebee Camaro in Transformers 2. Its definately a new designed Camaro in Transformer 2, the hood and front end look like the "Z28" you all speak of... Check it out...
06-24-2009, 01:06 PM
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Under government ownership GM couldn't justify the money needed to launch this model. All the work on it is complete but it may never see the light of day.
That doesn't mean that GMPP might not offer parts from it for 5th gen. owners though.
That doesn't mean that GMPP might not offer parts from it for 5th gen. owners though.
06-24-2009, 05:04 PM
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Now maybe I just was in the middle of a dream or something but I thought I read something that said the government was going to play as little of a role as possible in GM.
Also as Chrysler restarting Viper, it seems like that's their only halo car. Its advertising that pays for itself since Obama cut their ad budget in half. And don't know how many remember history, but there was a time when GM paid $$$ to break away from Fiat, saying they weren't profitable, and in half a decade, that same company found the money to buy Chrysler.
As for the Z28, it'll probably be a limited edition vehicle. More than likely near the end of the platform's life. Which is sad. But considering the state of things, I feel thats realistic. However, feel free to buy an LS9 for your SS. Might be as close as you're going to get for now.
Also as Chrysler restarting Viper, it seems like that's their only halo car. Its advertising that pays for itself since Obama cut their ad budget in half. And don't know how many remember history, but there was a time when GM paid $$$ to break away from Fiat, saying they weren't profitable, and in half a decade, that same company found the money to buy Chrysler.
As for the Z28, it'll probably be a limited edition vehicle. More than likely near the end of the platform's life. Which is sad. But considering the state of things, I feel thats realistic. However, feel free to buy an LS9 for your SS. Might be as close as you're going to get for now.
06-24-2009, 05:33 PM
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Now maybe I just was in the middle of a dream or something but I thought I read something that said the government was going to play as little of a role as possible in GM.
Also as Chrysler restarting Viper, it seems like that's their only halo car. Its advertising that pays for itself since Obama cut their ad budget in half. And don't know how many remember history, but there was a time when GM paid $$$ to break away from Fiat, saying they weren't profitable, and in half a decade, that same company found the money to buy Chrysler.
As for the Z28, it'll probably be a limited edition vehicle. More than likely near the end of the platform's life. Which is sad. But considering the state of things, I feel thats realistic. However, feel free to buy an LS9 for your SS. Might be as close as you're going to get for now.
Also as Chrysler restarting Viper, it seems like that's their only halo car. Its advertising that pays for itself since Obama cut their ad budget in half. And don't know how many remember history, but there was a time when GM paid $$$ to break away from Fiat, saying they weren't profitable, and in half a decade, that same company found the money to buy Chrysler.
As for the Z28, it'll probably be a limited edition vehicle. More than likely near the end of the platform's life. Which is sad. But considering the state of things, I feel thats realistic. However, feel free to buy an LS9 for your SS. Might be as close as you're going to get for now.
06-24-2009, 05:54 PM
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It wasn't too hard for Fiat to afford Chrysler, considering it was free. That and the US government essentially forced the deal down Chryslers throat. Fiat is such a great company with such great technology, yet they manufacture 0 vehicles for sale in the US or desired by people in the US. Great idea. It is sad to see the government sponsoring the export of ownership and ultimately profits of yet another of the companies that built this country.
06-24-2009, 09:08 PM
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I hate to say it, but Fiat won't solve anything for Chrysler. I don't know where all this demand for small vehicles is, certainly Toyota and Honda are trying to find it as well. The difference is in their flexibility to adjust to the market. Fiat only wanted Chrysler to try and get their own previously very unpopular cars back into this country.
06-25-2009, 11:38 AM
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If the money was invested on developing the Z28, why not build the damn thing to recoup some costs? Price it with a GT500 if they have to I say . . . I mean they are selling the gas hog CTSV (which is awesome) and countless SUVs . . . why not a few thousand Z28s a year???
06-25-2009, 01:12 PM
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Well...none. I think the government should have allowed Chrysler to shed their ridiculous obligations they were strong armed into so they can ultimately compete. They could be profitable without the union stranglehold even if they only made the vehicles you mentioned. Downsizing is impossible for GM, Ford, and Chrysler because of the union and the obvious support they have from the government. Foreign competitors are able to adjust to market conditions, but we saddle our own with contracts that make it very hard to be flexible.
I hate to say it, but Fiat won't solve anything for Chrysler. I don't know where all this demand for small vehicles is, certainly Toyota and Honda are trying to find it as well. The difference is in their flexibility to adjust to the market. Fiat only wanted Chrysler to try and get their own previously very unpopular cars back into this country.
I hate to say it, but Fiat won't solve anything for Chrysler. I don't know where all this demand for small vehicles is, certainly Toyota and Honda are trying to find it as well. The difference is in their flexibility to adjust to the market. Fiat only wanted Chrysler to try and get their own previously very unpopular cars back into this country.
Fiat isnt going to do **** for them but allow them to still be a whole company again and if they are smart get back on their feet after this and finally take tech from someone that is useful and not give it mostly up ( like what they gave in droves to mb).
I was hoping to see this bring about an end to the union burden that these companies face but the unions are still ticking and will once again drag these companies down.
it would have been one of the worst fire sales in history if chrysler was able to go through a normal non government backed bancruptcy.
06-26-2009, 08:59 AM
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He wants everyone in a hybrid in one year, how is that anything like being an American? Way to let us have things that we work for, want, and deserve. I don't want this to be another thread on NObama but America's losing more and more rights and freedoms everyday. If I want to buy a 569hp Z-28, Chevy should build it, and I should HAVE the choice to buy it. Damn the man telling my car company they can't build a car that is enthusiast driven. After Chrysler started building cars again last week, do you know which line they started first? The freakin' Viper, the Viper!!! How does that happen, didn't Chrysler and GM both go backrupt and need a bailout? So,.....Chrysler can chose to start building their supercars and GM can't have a choice? It's about more than Obama, recession, and dependency on fossil fuels, but damn, THIS IS AMERICA! You know, baseball, apple pie, and Chevrolet!!! I'll keep my guns, tobacco, muscle cars, and you keep the CHANGE! I want to see the presidential car as a freakin hybrid, he should'nt be able to ride in an American car, like his Cadillac, escorted by half a dozen Tahoe's and Suburbans. Sorry, just a little venting!
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06-26-2009, 10:42 AM
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Why is that, just commenting on how bad it sucks that the Z-28 got squashed? Is that not what happens on here, talk about cars, GM, and such?
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06-28-2009, 06:38 PM
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Scott Settlemire has said several times that the Z28 is done. They just can't bring it out because of everything going on at GM. IF things turn around at GM then they might be able to bring it to market.
06-29-2009, 08:42 PM
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I very much agree with the comments about the current situation being mainly the fault of the unions, but I don't think the obama administration is going to mandate the big 3 to build small vehicles. I see them making that change through influence of our energy policy. The Z28 program was probably axed by an internal decision for PR reasons.
06-30-2009, 08:43 AM
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06-30-2009, 08:58 AM
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There is also a company putting LS9 long blocks in Camaro's and selling them to the public. Obviously that's very similar to what GM wanted to do with the Z28, but since they're currently unable to build it due to the economic state of affairs (apparently), I don't think we can look forward to a GM produced Camaro with a LS9.
Would have been one hell of a car from the factory!
Would have been one hell of a car from the factory!