2012 Camaro Z28 spotted and confirmed!! 6.2L supercharge V8
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Yeah if you buy the 4k 21 inch rim option LOL...which is retarded IMO.
The 2SS starts at 34k. The 2SS comes with the boston acoustics stereo and leather obviously. Only other thing some would want to add is stripes and the RS package which is another 2k.
Your not going to spend much more than 38k OTD on a 2010 camaro unless you pick every little option you can find. (GM performance exhaust, subwoofer, 21 inch rims etc). This is not even considering certain discounts etc...a loaded 2ss is not going to cost you anywhere near 42k in most situations. The AVERAGE 2SS is going to cost you 36-38k OTD. Even cheaper with discounts.
The Z28 will be priced comparable to the GT500. Maybe 1-2k more....just like the GT and SS. Why wouldnt this be the case? We will be looking at 50-52k starting in 2012 is my guess. Dont forget the GT500 has a performance package that is 3k (bringing the price to 53k)...which is something GM doesnt do lately....so who knows what the base price will be/what will be included etc?
A little side note. The base price of 31k for a 1SS in 2010/2011 is cheaper than the base price for the z28 in 2002 when adjusted for inflation. The car is a better deal than it has ever been. Especially considering what you are getting. The base z28 in 2002 didnt come with nearly as many features as the 5th gen.
The 2SS starts at 34k. The 2SS comes with the boston acoustics stereo and leather obviously. Only other thing some would want to add is stripes and the RS package which is another 2k.
Your not going to spend much more than 38k OTD on a 2010 camaro unless you pick every little option you can find. (GM performance exhaust, subwoofer, 21 inch rims etc). This is not even considering certain discounts etc...a loaded 2ss is not going to cost you anywhere near 42k in most situations. The AVERAGE 2SS is going to cost you 36-38k OTD. Even cheaper with discounts.
The Z28 will be priced comparable to the GT500. Maybe 1-2k more....just like the GT and SS. Why wouldnt this be the case? We will be looking at 50-52k starting in 2012 is my guess. Dont forget the GT500 has a performance package that is 3k (bringing the price to 53k)...which is something GM doesnt do lately....so who knows what the base price will be/what will be included etc?
A little side note. The base price of 31k for a 1SS in 2010/2011 is cheaper than the base price for the z28 in 2002 when adjusted for inflation. The car is a better deal than it has ever been. Especially considering what you are getting. The base z28 in 2002 didnt come with nearly as many features as the 5th gen.
Now the Z28 for 50-52K? Ain't no way in hell, and certainly not for the first year. This is the first Camaro to hit the market with a supercharger from the factory so right there means the first ones out the gate are going to be outrageous. I wouldn't be surprised to see this batch sticker for 65K or better. After things calm down I'd say 57K-60K. This car is squarely aimed at the Cobra. But the catch is its gonna pack more HP with an independent rear suspension and thats how they'll justify the extra cost over the cobra.
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No way. My car cost $36,325.00, that's a 2SS/RS with a sunroof. There really isn't any other options I could get other than stripes, GFX and wheels which are all add on's. My car has leather, heated seats, iPod hook up, BA sound system, and blue tooth. 40K for an SS is ridiculous. The only way to pay that much is with 21" wheels and ground effects or paying a 4K dealer premium. Unless you live in Canada I call BS.
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ive seen one SS that was almost 42k. it was one i test drove. it did have that $4600 rim and tire package. its still at that dealer and its been at least 6 months. theyll need to take 5k off that car before id even consider buying it. even the salesmen said it was a ripoff.
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Leaving dealer markups out the equation, I'd say the best bet on price is $45-52K like Ultra said. The CTS-V coupe, which is pretty much the same car with better amenities, is going to sticker at $62-65K. The Z/28 would have to be significantly less than that. Sure, the first batch of idiots will come along and pay $75K to have the first few Z/28s, like the fools who paid $50-55K when the SS first came out. After that, I'd say mid-forties to low-fifties.
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No way. My car cost $36,325.00, that's a 2SS/RS with a sunroof. There really isn't any other options I could get other than stripes, GFX and wheels which are all add on's. My car has leather, heated seats, iPod hook up, BA sound system, and blue tooth. 40K for an SS is ridiculous. The only way to pay that much is with 21" wheels and ground effects or paying a 4K dealer premium. Unless you live in Canada I call BS.
I'm amazed they were still trying to charge mark-up. Every dealer I pass I see plenty of Camaros sitting on the lot.
Leaving dealer markups out the equation, I'd say the best bet on price is $45-52K like Ultra said. The CTS-V coupe, which is pretty much the same car with better amenities, is going to sticker at $62-65K. The Z/28 would have to be significantly less than that.
Leaving dealer markups out the equation, I'd say the best bet on price is $45-52K like Ultra said. The CTS-V coupe, which is pretty much the same car with better amenities, is going to sticker at $62-65K. The Z/28 would have to be significantly less than that.
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I've seen some on autotrader for around 34-35K, but they usually have some mileage on them for that price. Brand new at that price, its gonna be stripped down pretty good and your probably gonna have to order it.
So I'll go along with your average of 36-38K OTD with discounts. A loaded 2SS is going to cost you 42K in just about every situation around here.
So I'll go along with your average of 36-38K OTD with discounts. A loaded 2SS is going to cost you 42K in just about every situation around here.
I didn't get a deal, that's the sticker price. If you pay over sticker then that's your fault, not GM's. Anyone can get that deal. Paying over sticker is just plain stupid. To say brand new at 34-35K gets you a stripped down Camaro is just not true and that's what you stated. You call the car a rip off by using false information. Since when does dealer options make a car loaded. I have always known "loaded" to mean with all the factory options on the car. Ground effects and 4K wheels are all dealer options. You are narrow minded when it comes to the actual cost of this car.
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There are 5 of them traveling around the state now. I seen one yesterday at graff chevrolet in dallas(grand prairie)....i was going to pick up parts seen a bunch of camaros and rich white guys they were showing the 2012 z28 and telling us everything about them...tried to get a cell phone pic but told no picures allowed!!!!!! Sry i didnt wanna get kicked out plus i was droolin but i still love my 2010
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I'm calling BS on you.
I didn't get a deal, that's the sticker price. If you pay over sticker then that's your fault, not GM's. Anyone can get that deal. Paying over sticker is just plain stupid. To say brand new at 34-35K gets you a stripped down Camaro is just not true and that's what you stated.
I didn't get a deal, that's the sticker price. If you pay over sticker then that's your fault, not GM's. Anyone can get that deal. Paying over sticker is just plain stupid. To say brand new at 34-35K gets you a stripped down Camaro is just not true and that's what you stated.
No I call spending more than 37K a rip off. To be real honest I think buying any car brand new is a rip off, but thats another argument.
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Hmm. This is confusing news to me... I was under the impression that they were waiting until the alpha platform to release the z/28. Its still good news to hear if they can keep the car priced around 50k like the gt500(it's targeted competition). The 6 speed auto will make buying this car over a gt500 a much easier decision for a lot of people. The only tough decision in buying this car is if people will really want a z/28 camaro over a corvette..
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And I need to lie because of what exactly? My point here is the deal you got im not seeing around me. Have you seen a brand new SS no mileage for 34-35K? I haven't but based on what I've seen so far if it ain't bare bones it ain't far from it. The average around me is $38K brand new. There are plenty of demos or low mileage ones I have seen with nice options for 30-36K but none were brand new and I don't give a crap if you believe it or not.
No I call spending more than 37K a rip off. To be real honest I think buying any car brand new is a rip off, but thats another argument.
Fine what you call loaded and what I call loaded obviously ain't the same thing. With that being said, 38K, 39K, 42K is what was on the stickers. Believe it or not. You can call BS until you turn blue in the face, it ain't gonna change a d@mn thing.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
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No I call spending more than 37K a rip off. To be real honest I think buying any car brand new is a rip off, but thats another argument.
Fine what you call loaded and what I call loaded obviously ain't the same thing. With that being said, 38K, 39K, 42K is what was on the stickers. Believe it or not. You can call BS until you turn blue in the face, it ain't gonna change a d@mn thing.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1280285344017
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Hmm. This is confusing news to me... I was under the impression that they were waiting until the alpha platform to release the z/28. Its still good news to hear if they can keep the car priced around 50k like the gt500(it's targeted competition). The 6 speed auto will make buying this car over a gt500 a much easier decision for a lot of people. The only tough decision in buying this car is if people will really want a z/28 camaro over a corvette..
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Doesn't matter really if it's the new Z28 or whatever. Cause you can still buy an SS
and just add a HTV2300 and make 575 rwhp and 550 rwtq if you want to. Plus "Ultimate Performance, Inc" makes a killer single turbo that puts the turbo were the stock air box resides. So its all good. But i hope its a Z
and just add a HTV2300 and make 575 rwhp and 550 rwtq if you want to. Plus "Ultimate Performance, Inc" makes a killer single turbo that puts the turbo were the stock air box resides. So its all good. But i hope its a Z
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Doesn't matter really if it's the new Z28 or whatever. Cause you can still buy an SS
and just add a HTV2300 and make 575 rwhp and 550 rwtq if you want to. Plus "Ultimate Performance, Inc" makes a killer single turbo that puts the turbo were the stock air box resides. So its all good. But i hope its a Z
and just add a HTV2300 and make 575 rwhp and 550 rwtq if you want to. Plus "Ultimate Performance, Inc" makes a killer single turbo that puts the turbo were the stock air box resides. So its all good. But i hope its a Z
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Thats very true. When i bought a new '99 Camaro SS M6 i knew it was a Z28 but i
still bought the car anyway. And i know if i had the money for a new Z28 i will do what i can to get one I can't even imagine just how bad *** the supercharged Z would look, feel, and sound like!!! I know how sweet the SS was when i test drove one last october. I was shocked just how solid the car felt. I drove the six speed version and couldn't believe just how great the stock clutch and shifter felt. I wish i could have driven the SS with the dealer installed high flow catback. When i stopped to look at an Imperial Blue SS A6 it had the dealer installed catback and it sounded bad ***. I loved the popping sound thru the exhaust since it was night and a little chilly so the motor was cold started so the idle and rev sounded mean I love the SS everytime i drive one. I want one bad, but i'd still keep my '02 SS A4 as well of course. Hopefully someday.
still bought the car anyway. And i know if i had the money for a new Z28 i will do what i can to get one I can't even imagine just how bad *** the supercharged Z would look, feel, and sound like!!! I know how sweet the SS was when i test drove one last october. I was shocked just how solid the car felt. I drove the six speed version and couldn't believe just how great the stock clutch and shifter felt. I wish i could have driven the SS with the dealer installed high flow catback. When i stopped to look at an Imperial Blue SS A6 it had the dealer installed catback and it sounded bad ***. I loved the popping sound thru the exhaust since it was night and a little chilly so the motor was cold started so the idle and rev sounded mean I love the SS everytime i drive one. I want one bad, but i'd still keep my '02 SS A4 as well of course. Hopefully someday.