I like them both..(camaro and the challenger)
View Poll Results: Rate the 2009 Camaro
I rather drive a Ford.
131
6.12%
1
20
0.93%
2
29
1.35%
3
49
2.29%
4
42
1.96%
5
130
6.07%
6
110
5.14%
7
228
10.65%
8
396
18.50%
9
273
12.75%
10
733
34.24%
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One word: UGLY
I heard from a reliable source the car will be built on the Trailblazer platform, and will weigh in at over 4500lbs....but it will have a 5000lb towing capacity.
OK, seriously I love the way the car looks. Let's look at some cars in recent memory that haul *** with a lot of mass:
03-04 Cobra 3650+lbs...high 12's stock
06-07 GT500 3900+lbs...mid 12's stock
05-07 SRT8's 4100+lbs...low 13's stock
05-06 GTO 3650+lbs...low 13's stock
OK, seriously I love the way the car looks. Let's look at some cars in recent memory that haul *** with a lot of mass:
03-04 Cobra 3650+lbs...high 12's stock
06-07 GT500 3900+lbs...mid 12's stock
05-07 SRT8's 4100+lbs...low 13's stock
05-06 GTO 3650+lbs...low 13's stock
I think the car looks badass, There pictures floating around of 4th gens sitting next to the concept car, the concept is smaller I could when I saw both them in person. I cant wait till its out..personally im tired of seeing 500+ mustangs a day. I cant see how anyone wants a mustang now because there just sooo dam many there like the civic of american cars. Everyone and there grandma has one.
I voted 9. The car is superb looking and I'm sure(I hope) GM is not stupid to bring back a heavier,slowerand ugly Camaro. Just dont bring it back if its for nothing except if the car will beat the Mustang on every aspect of it, and not only performance.
We know the last gen didnt survive even if they were faster than the Mustang. Most plp will buy for look at a decent price and hardcore will buy the sportiest and badest looking for the best price if possible.
But we have to face it, I think the mass will buy V6 base model/convertible and thats where the companies make their money. They want to sell a lot, so their base model must be a good value and the top models(ss/z28/cobra/whatever) must be faster than other top of the line models.
When I tell the average plp who's not into cars that I own a Camaro SS, they simply laugh at me!!! but when they see my car on the street, they dont even know what it is and they like it!!!...this is the mass GM has to conquer back..it will be hard!!! and of course they think their stock civic with fart can is faster than any mustang or camaro. It's ignorance and stereotype that prevails too often. I'm not trying to bash import here by the way because I know all their models are top rated for quality and value.
Another exemple of the mass stereotype or ignorance: I talked to a guy that was believing is stock echo was better suited for curves than a Mustang..
and is last word for saying his car is better is: my car is better for gas mileage...
We know the last gen didnt survive even if they were faster than the Mustang. Most plp will buy for look at a decent price and hardcore will buy the sportiest and badest looking for the best price if possible.
But we have to face it, I think the mass will buy V6 base model/convertible and thats where the companies make their money. They want to sell a lot, so their base model must be a good value and the top models(ss/z28/cobra/whatever) must be faster than other top of the line models.
When I tell the average plp who's not into cars that I own a Camaro SS, they simply laugh at me!!! but when they see my car on the street, they dont even know what it is and they like it!!!...this is the mass GM has to conquer back..it will be hard!!! and of course they think their stock civic with fart can is faster than any mustang or camaro. It's ignorance and stereotype that prevails too often. I'm not trying to bash import here by the way because I know all their models are top rated for quality and value.
Another exemple of the mass stereotype or ignorance: I talked to a guy that was believing is stock echo was better suited for curves than a Mustang..
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Originally Posted by OctaneZ28
If America isn't buying sporty cars, then how did 166,000 Mustangs sell in 2006?
America is still buying sporty cars. But the 4th gens weren't really a sporty car for the masses. It was a love it or hate it car, that generally only appealed to an auto enthusiast due to many of the design aspects.
The Mustang has always been more "general public" friendly. If the new Camaro is anything like that, then it will sell well.
IMO, the 4th gen V8 F-bodies are a hardcore, brute force modern muscle car (great for people like myself and most other's on this site, but not the general public). I think the new Camaro will be more of a refined performance coupe (in comparison to the 4th gens) that will appeal to more than just the enthusiast extremists found on this site.
Originally Posted by JohnFrazee02SS
Just be glad that GM finally got their heads out of their ***, and figured out wht they are losing $$$$.
Originally Posted by NONOS
Originally Posted by 01z
id rather buy the new challenger
The new camaro is going to be way to much money! You can buy a new mustang cheaper! 
Challenger will be the most expensive of the trio by several thousand.
8 second club
Joined: Aug 2005
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From: Greenwood, IN
Originally Posted by Louie83
I think the biggest problem with the Camaro will be that "retro" is already starting to get really old, and the car isn't even out yet.
By the time the car is actually for sale, the majority of people will never want to see another retro car again.
By the time the car is actually for sale, the majority of people will never want to see another retro car again.
Teching In
Joined: May 2005
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Originally Posted by NONOS
The new camaro is going to be way to much money! You can buy a new mustang cheaper! 
I voted a 10, I love the new Camaro! For the first time since I was 16 I have been really looking forward to buying an F-body, I feel the same way as I did back then. I just can't wait till I have one, which will be my first new F-body. I got the TA used when I was 16, 7 years ago. Should be cool to see one sitting next to my 4th gen.
dont like the front of it?
it doesnt matter, because just like the mustang.. you'll be able to buy a billion "snap on the front inplace of stock" body kits for it.
SOMEONE will make a "hidden headlight" RS/SS front... ect....
it doesnt matter, because just like the mustang.. you'll be able to buy a billion "snap on the front inplace of stock" body kits for it.
SOMEONE will make a "hidden headlight" RS/SS front... ect....
