can someone please get in the 10s with a stock motor....
05-03-2011 | 10:26 AM
#81
I cant see how it cant be done, OrangeChevy ran 11.30's bolt-on's and cam only, with drag wheels and tires. That was with stock gears, stock clutch, stock axles, stock suspension. Your telling me between gears, and a little suspension work you cant make up .3! It can be done.
I am waiting to see gains for 5.0s with cams..No on is doing them yet being they just came out. But seeing what doing with bolt ons i am sure they will get some mid 10s.
08-20-2011 | 11:41 PM
#83
09-06-2011 | 05:36 PM
#85
I remember when the ls1 GTO's came out this was kind of a debate. Nobody had really pushed there cars to their all(H/c Stall gears drag rims perfect DA).
Took a few years but my dad was finally able to get it and well into the 10s (10.5) On stock bottom end
It will happen just give it time. People arent ready to go with a big 4.11 gear and a 4000 stall yet in there precious 40k 5th gens. This winter should see some people knocking on the door step.
another reason why they arent so fast is people. Right now you can buy a real good 4th gen for under 10k. Give yourself another 10k and you will EASILY be in the 10s. 5th gen costs alot more than 20k. People buy these cars because they look nice, ride nice, and get a lot of attention.
As for the whole Camaro Vs 5.0 In my opinion, these cars are nearly comprable. They run nearly the same number out of the factory, just more people have tried to run the number with mustangs than camaros.
Took a few years but my dad was finally able to get it and well into the 10s (10.5) On stock bottom end
It will happen just give it time. People arent ready to go with a big 4.11 gear and a 4000 stall yet in there precious 40k 5th gens. This winter should see some people knocking on the door step.
another reason why they arent so fast is people. Right now you can buy a real good 4th gen for under 10k. Give yourself another 10k and you will EASILY be in the 10s. 5th gen costs alot more than 20k. People buy these cars because they look nice, ride nice, and get a lot of attention.
As for the whole Camaro Vs 5.0 In my opinion, these cars are nearly comprable. They run nearly the same number out of the factory, just more people have tried to run the number with mustangs than camaros.
10-31-2011 | 02:22 PM
#87
I'm selling my Corvette & planning on buying a 2012 SS..
Going to get the manual trans, then do the auto conversion, with 9" rear, vette brakes on the rear, heads cam converter headers.....
Set it up just like my car is now..
Going to get the manual trans, then do the auto conversion, with 9" rear, vette brakes on the rear, heads cam converter headers.....
Set it up just like my car is now..
12-05-2011 | 03:04 AM
#88
12-23-2011 | 02:21 PM
#89
Nothing but bolt ons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngcQtQ9iiLM
12-24-2011 | 07:52 AM
#91
12-24-2011 | 12:50 PM
#93
What was the race weight on that car? That is an important factor as well. Stripped out ls1 cars have went high 9's on motor years ago. Evolutions mustang that went 10's N/A had been stripped.
This car is at 3800 race weight.
That camaro traps 128-129.
The mustang trapped 125. How is the mustang trapping higher?
That camaro will go mid 10's with a better 60. It is on stock suspension minus lowering springs. It is a daily driven customers car.
I would expect a heads and cams 5.0 that is non stripped to be a couple tenths quicker...just like they are stock. Of course it will be easier with the 5.0...it is better for the track having a SRA.
This car is at 3800 race weight.
That camaro traps 128-129.
The mustang trapped 125. How is the mustang trapping higher?
That camaro will go mid 10's with a better 60. It is on stock suspension minus lowering springs. It is a daily driven customers car.
I would expect a heads and cams 5.0 that is non stripped to be a couple tenths quicker...just like they are stock. Of course it will be easier with the 5.0...it is better for the track having a SRA.
Last edited by UltraZLS1; 12-24-2011 at 12:56 PM.
12-24-2011 | 01:00 PM
#94
How was the trap slower? The camaro went 10.83 @ 129 last time out on stock suspension.
12-24-2011 | 01:12 PM
#95
Still dont see why one is more impressive then another. There are cars that run 10's from the factory.
12-24-2011 | 01:19 PM
#96
Actually, it is still VERY impressive.
No it wasn't.
Last I checked 128/129mph was still faster than 125mph.
Though the Mustang is also impressive, no doubt.
Exactly. 
No it wasn't.
Last I checked 128/129mph was still faster than 125mph.
Though the Mustang is also impressive, no doubt.
What was the race weight on that car? That is an important factor as well. Stripped out ls1 cars have went high 9's on motor years ago. Evolutions mustang that went 10's N/A had been stripped.
This car is at 3800 race weight.
That camaro traps 128-129.
The mustang trapped 125. How is the mustang trapping higher?
That camaro will go mid 10's with a better 60. It is on stock suspension minus lowering springs. It is a daily driven customers car.
I would expect a heads and cams 5.0 that is non stripped to be a couple tenths quicker...just like they are stock. Of course it will be easier with the 5.0...it is better for the track having a SRA.
This car is at 3800 race weight.
That camaro traps 128-129.
The mustang trapped 125. How is the mustang trapping higher?
That camaro will go mid 10's with a better 60. It is on stock suspension minus lowering springs. It is a daily driven customers car.
I would expect a heads and cams 5.0 that is non stripped to be a couple tenths quicker...just like they are stock. Of course it will be easier with the 5.0...it is better for the track having a SRA.
12-24-2011 | 07:43 PM
#97
Found it. The race weight on that mustang was 3550. That is impressive.
Still 4mph behind the camaro but cutting a 1.4 60ft to a 1.5 60ft. Thats the only reason it hit a 10.8. Good old SRA. The camaro is also limited by its rear brakes. One can only go down to a 17 inch rim in the rear. And those are only made by two companies. And only one of them doesnt have fitment issues. Most are stuck with 18's at best.
From what I have seen the 5.0 is just hitting 500rwhp with heads and cams stock bottom end at this point.
Should be a good race between a ~500rwhp 5.0 and a ~530 rwhp ls3 camaro. If both vehicles are of similar weight to factory specs. Power to weight they would be nearly identical. If the camaro can manage to hook as effectively that is. It almost never will...so the stang will have the edge I am sure. From a roll on the street (where 90% of people race lol) the camaro would win. More horsepower with much more torque and the weight disadvantage is negated heavily from a roll.
BTW. The camaro in this vid has ported stock heads and stock size throttle body. It is leaving another 15-20 rwhp on the table minimum. Plenty of people have hit 530rwhp+....they are at 515.
Still 4mph behind the camaro but cutting a 1.4 60ft to a 1.5 60ft. Thats the only reason it hit a 10.8. Good old SRA. The camaro is also limited by its rear brakes. One can only go down to a 17 inch rim in the rear. And those are only made by two companies. And only one of them doesnt have fitment issues. Most are stuck with 18's at best.
From what I have seen the 5.0 is just hitting 500rwhp with heads and cams stock bottom end at this point.
Should be a good race between a ~500rwhp 5.0 and a ~530 rwhp ls3 camaro. If both vehicles are of similar weight to factory specs. Power to weight they would be nearly identical. If the camaro can manage to hook as effectively that is. It almost never will...so the stang will have the edge I am sure. From a roll on the street (where 90% of people race lol) the camaro would win. More horsepower with much more torque and the weight disadvantage is negated heavily from a roll.
BTW. The camaro in this vid has ported stock heads and stock size throttle body. It is leaving another 15-20 rwhp on the table minimum. Plenty of people have hit 530rwhp+....they are at 515.
12-25-2011 | 12:39 AM
#98
Found it. The race weight on that mustang was 3550. That is impressive.
Still 4mph behind the camaro but cutting a 1.4 60ft to a 1.5 60ft. Thats the only reason it hit a 10.8. Good old SRA. The camaro is also limited by its rear brakes. One can only go down to a 17 inch rim in the rear. And those are only made by two companies. And only one of them doesnt have fitment issues. Most are stuck with 18's at best.
From what I have seen the 5.0 is just hitting 500rwhp with heads and cams stock bottom end at this point.
Should be a good race between a ~500rwhp 5.0 and a ~530 rwhp ls3 camaro. If both vehicles are of similar weight to factory specs. Power to weight they would be nearly identical. If the camaro can manage to hook as effectively that is. It almost never will...so the stang will have the edge I am sure. From a roll on the street (where 90% of people race lol) the camaro would win. More horsepower with much more torque and the weight disadvantage is negated heavily from a roll.
BTW. The camaro in this vid has ported stock heads and stock size throttle body. It is leaving another 15-20 rwhp on the table minimum. Plenty of people have hit 530rwhp+....they are at 515.
Still 4mph behind the camaro but cutting a 1.4 60ft to a 1.5 60ft. Thats the only reason it hit a 10.8. Good old SRA. The camaro is also limited by its rear brakes. One can only go down to a 17 inch rim in the rear. And those are only made by two companies. And only one of them doesnt have fitment issues. Most are stuck with 18's at best.
From what I have seen the 5.0 is just hitting 500rwhp with heads and cams stock bottom end at this point.
Should be a good race between a ~500rwhp 5.0 and a ~530 rwhp ls3 camaro. If both vehicles are of similar weight to factory specs. Power to weight they would be nearly identical. If the camaro can manage to hook as effectively that is. It almost never will...so the stang will have the edge I am sure. From a roll on the street (where 90% of people race lol) the camaro would win. More horsepower with much more torque and the weight disadvantage is negated heavily from a roll.
BTW. The camaro in this vid has ported stock heads and stock size throttle body. It is leaving another 15-20 rwhp on the table minimum. Plenty of people have hit 530rwhp+....they are at 515.
Agreed on all counts. 
12-25-2011 | 02:58 PM
#100
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You're a 1st class cry baby. With that, I happen to whole-heartedly AGREE with you here.
Ohio... Not EVERYTHING is meant to be compared to the new 5L from Ford as if the only scale is between it and whatever... The 5L is a great engine, we know. So is the LS3, however and anyone who doesn't think just shedding that massive Camaro body couldn't do major good need look only as far as a new C6. The engine IS impressive, but the girth of Camaro is not.
Ohio... Not EVERYTHING is meant to be compared to the new 5L from Ford as if the only scale is between it and whatever... The 5L is a great engine, we know. So is the LS3, however and anyone who doesn't think just shedding that massive Camaro body couldn't do major good need look only as far as a new C6. The engine IS impressive, but the girth of Camaro is not.