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Old 04-30-2011, 03:01 PM
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You put a hurt on what 6 speed? I am pretty sure your not talking an SS, cause that would total BS, unless the guy had NO idea how to drive! I been around 4th gens for a long time, my brother still has his bolt-on 2000 T/A... my header only SS walks his car no problem, I still had him beat BONE stock! A stock for stock 4th gen has no chance against a 5th gen if both guys can drive. Thats a FACT, not saying that there is a big difference between to two... there's not, but the 5th gen IS FASTER.
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I **** camaros up all time..Even with the full bolt ons before i had full bolt ons..Are they fast ya compared to a 2010 GT..Is there some 5.0s going to lose ya its possible..Not as much as camaros losing to 5.0s.
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Originally Posted by Camaro Z
This should stir the pot again

"GT has the 3.73/Brembo package, everything stock. SS has straight pipes welded in place of the mufflers, that is the only mod. GT had TC on, SS had TC off. The audio sounds weird at first because I had wind noise reduction on. Shot with Canon EOS 60D and Canon 10-22mm lense.

Camaro had 145lb driver and 125lb passenger. The weight of both cars pretty much equal out because of this factor. Mods will be going on both cars in the future, can't wait for rematches!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-VX2...layer_embedded

Read the description for details.

Edit: here's a pic from before the race.
Looks like he would have beat you in a 1/4 mile. After that you caught him..to late in drag racing then.
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Originally Posted by sweetC5
You put a hurt on what 6 speed?
challenger. i ran into a white 5th gen fbod tonight that bugged me enough we pulled a couple gears a few times. i'm still trying to figure out if it was a v6 or not, it was painfully slow. sounded like an auto, but hard to tell at highway speeds, stock exhaust, and in the dark with 5% tint. i don't pick races, mainly because my job depends on my license, but i could only take so much of the front end hopping **** before trying my luck haha.

i have on idea how i'd fare against a stock ls3 m6 5th gen f car. probably not good. i don't street race, so i'll probably never know. ta went 88 in the 1/8, so you tell me. i guess that's 112-113 in the 1/4 for an m6 car? i raced the **** out of my a4 camaro while this car sat in the garage. nothing has changed except i no longer have the camaro haha.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Looks like he would have beat you in a 1/4 mile. After that you caught him..to late in drag racing then.
A street race is'nt always a 1/4 mile. The 5.0 got beat in that race. A roll race would've made it look pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
A street race is'nt always a 1/4 mile. The 5.0 got beat in that race. A roll race would've made it look pretty bad.
Funny i raced a few camaros in roll races..Didnt lose..from 20-140 camaro stayed about 2 cars behind me whole time. few others worse..

But anything can happen...
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Funny i raced a few camaros in roll races..Didnt lose..from 20-140 camaro stayed about 2 cars behind me whole time. few others worse..

But anything can happen...
I've experienced the exact opposite outcome. 5.0's have faired better from stop light to stop light but they get walked hard on any roll over 40.
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Originally Posted by Dark SS
I've experienced the exact opposite outcome. 5.0's have faired better from stop light to stop light but they get walked hard on any roll over 40.
hmm...have to try a little higher rolls with the ones running same mods as me..or least to same..

Just curious..what mods you have and what you ran at track?

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This year I have ran in to a lot more 5.0's that last year and I now have full bolt-on's. Last year it had a CAI, tune and under drive and went 12.6 with a stock pirelli. I need to get it on an 18" MT and get back to track. There have been a few cars that went 11's with my set up.
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Originally Posted by Dark SS
This year I have ran in to a lot more 5.0's that last year and I now have full bolt-on's. Last year it had a CAI, tune and under drive and went 12.6 with a stock pirelli. I need to get it on an 18" MT and get back to track. There have been a few cars that went 11's with my set up.
See thats the difference. I had tune, cold air, and gears for high 11s..Now have full bolts i will be seeking some low 11.1-11.3 passes. Possible i know cause buddy just ran his car 11.6 in 80* weather at 2500da. SO a decent DA and cooler weather low 11s is very easy. When i break open motor and do cams i want decent 10s N/A..
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The biggest difference is that I did that on a stock 20" Pirelli ice skate. If I had a 18" DR it would have gotten me down to low 12's and on a full 17" slick it would have been even better. Put that car on a street tire and try to run anywhere close to those times. Let me know if you get 10's all motor because I haven't heard of anyone doing that. The 5th gen is not a drag race car but it can hold it's own much better that what people think. Did you actually run a high 11 with tune, gears and cold air??
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Originally Posted by Dark SS
The biggest difference is that I did that on a stock 20" Pirelli ice skate. If I had a 18" DR it would have gotten me down to low 12's and on a full 17" slick it would have been even better. Put that car on a street tire and try to run anywhere close to those times. Let me know if you get 10's all motor because I haven't heard of anyone doing that. The 5th gen is not a drag race car but it can hold it's own much better that what people think. Did you actually run a high 11 with tune, gears and cold air??
Yes i ran 11.88@106 with cold air, tune and gears on a drag radial. It should have been better but lost 5th gear. Couldnt get in 5th at last 100-150 feet or so. Killing my trap speed. Before lost 5th gear was trapping 115-117 but track didnt prep till later.

I know of 3 that have went 11.1-11.3 bolt ons..and one that went 10.7 with bolt ons, ported 5.0 heads. Them are the best times out there. Average i have seen from a bolt on only car. No cams/h/ car is 11.3-11.5ish.

here is my video of my 11.88. AT end you here it rev crazy..that was me being kicked back out 5th gear.. On that note ford replaced tranny/clutch.flywheel under warranty..Since havent had issues with it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwfAv33Tavg

Best before mods was 12.12 on tires only..Best bone stock i seen is 12.22 fo manual..Best auto is 12.37
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I find it amazing that it seems us 5th gen guys, former 4th gen owners have to defend our cars at this point Ya the new stang seems to be a bit better of a DRAG car, but the SS can hold its! They CAN run 11s with bolt-ons only but they need the drag wheel/tire setup, and alot of guys just are not poping the cash for that right now. For car with just exhaust and cold air's to run low 12's on 20" street tires is pretty damn good no.
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Not when stock 5.0s are doing low 12s on street tires stock.
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Low 12s stock? Low 11s with bolt on and tires? Hmmmm. Full weight???
Best I ever seen was 12.7s and that was at Atco 100 percent stock. Best bolt on cars I drove/raced mid 11s at 117-118 but that was before the Boss intake and full weigh.
They are fast and like I posted before you can't take them lightly.
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Low 12s stock, thats not even close to the norm! Not to mention that a few guys are running 12.50s-12.60s stock in a SS, and plenty in the 12.7-8's! So the best stang run is a hole .2 faster Thats a joke to think that is some big deal, the BEST stang is slightly faster in the 1/4... big deal, and a vette a will kill a stang all day long. Some one always is going to be a bit faster, drive what you like and modd the crap out if it! Thats the point of this hobby! I would never buy a stang, but you dont see me telling people what a turd they are!
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Not when stock 5.0s are doing low 12s on street tires stock.
Man your car runs good no doubt but you take it a little overboard. Every thread you post in you are bragging about how stock 5.0s are going low 12's stock. I have yet to see it personally but I won't say its not possible. The fact is very few are going to do it. The 5th camaros are not really suited for the 1/4 but there are quite a few going low 12s and high 11s with bolt ons. I have yet to run my 10 but I run my buddies cam-only 99SS that runs 11.90s @ 116 from a roll and we were door to door up to 140.
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Originally Posted by sweetC5
Low 12s stock, thats not even close to the norm! Not to mention that a few guys are running 12.50s-12.60s stock in a SS, and plenty in the 12.7-8's! So the best stang run is a hole .2 faster Thats a joke to think that is some big deal, the BEST stang is slightly faster in the 1/4... big deal, and a vette a will kill a stang all day long. Some one always is going to be a bit faster, drive what you like and modd the crap out if it! Thats the point of this hobby! I would never buy a stang, but you dont see me telling people what a turd they are!
I love how camaro's get but hurt and say well vette will kill it..Well cobra jet(8s from dealer) is faster then ever vette there is in production..SO what now?..GT500's are running low 11s with tires and high 11s without. Thats ZO6 times. new Supersnake they just got mid 11s street tires and in the 10s with tires....SO i think ford has it covered. But yes there is always some one faster with more money in the bank. More time on there hands.
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Originally Posted by navyblueSS
Man your car runs good no doubt but you take it a little overboard. Every thread you post in you are bragging about how stock 5.0s are going low 12's stock. I have yet to see it personally but I won't say its not possible. The fact is very few are going to do it. The 5th camaros are not really suited for the 1/4 but there are quite a few going low 12s and high 11s with bolt ons. I have yet to run my 10 but I run my buddies cam-only 99SS that runs 11.90s @ 116 from a roll and we were door to door up to 140.
If you look on the mustang forums you see more and more 5.0s going lower 12 stock. And more getting mid 11s and better with seat time with bolt ons.

Camaro's are nice and my wife is debating buying one. A convertible actually. SHe works for a chevy dealer so gets a little deal on them. And i will agree the new camaro is not suited for the drag strip like the older ones.

I think the camaro more of a status symbol now a days. Hey look i have a camaro im special.

And well the mustang great 1/4 car being so light. 3600 with full tank gas before any weight reduction on a base. But **** they are every where and dont know if 5.0 or 2010 4.6 till up on it. If they would have never came out with the 5.0 i would be rocking a SS..Just cause the 4.6 was a dog.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Not when stock 5.0s are doing low 12s on street tires stock.
Dude where are you getting this crap?? I thought you might have been a normal car guy but you seem to be drinking the Ford kool aid too. You just posted a vid where the best you could get is a 12.12 (which is really fast BTW) but you were on a full flipping slick. There is no was in hell you could get with in 3/10 of that time on a street tire and I don't care who's driving. Plus add in the fact that everyone's definition of stock is different.


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