Originally Posted by BigBake

Well your car is a pig then, not all 4th gen weighed the same from the factory. My 2001 Camaro SS is a stripper with me in the car it weighed 3480 (3290 without me) on the scales. All I had was a Yank ST3500 stall converter, a set of FLP headers, lid, and a set of BFG 275/40/17 drag radials on stock wheels all the way around. Just the spare tire, rear seats, and jack removed. At MIR I was cutting 1.59 60fts, crossing the 1/8th at 7.538, and finishing the ¼ at 11.87@113mph with a car that was on the dyno at 326rwhp and 342rwtq. There were cars similar to mine that were 3 to 4 tenths quicker because they were using 4000 to 4600 rpm stalls, gearing, and taking advantage of location and good weather.

This is why your logic is flawed because you are not taking into account all the variables. Do not ever compare a manual car with a stalled car at the drag strip. It does not matter that you launch at 5000rpms, you are not getting torque multiplication like an auto, further as you are shifting gears your RPM is dropping out of the powerband, a stalled car runs at peak power all the way down the strip, my RPM never dipped below 5000rpm down the track. You are comparing two numbers that are obtained in two completely different ways.

Originally Posted by LS1LT1

Almost identical to my results in my bolt ons only stripper Z28 automatic, though my raceweight was a little lighter (roughly 3390 with me in it).
1.59 sixty foot, 7.51 in the 1/8th and an 11.86@113.62 in good air at Atco.
Dyno'd roughly 335rwhp/336rwtq.

Originally Posted by LS1LT1

Wait, you're doubting my trap speed?
That's funny, I actually thought my trap speed was kind of low LOL.

I did in fact dyno only 335rwhp on a Dynojet and I did in fact trap 113.62 (I'd only hit the 113s twice, all of my other passes during that period were in the high 112s).
Keep in mind that 335rwhp on a dyno is not necessarily still only 335rwhp out on the track where the air is hitting the free ram air/filter/lid with a little more force and also where the MAF/IATs can take advantage of the extremely cold air that I ran those numbers in. It was probably the 2nd or 3rd best quality air I've ever raced in.

Originally Posted by BigBake

The problem is you are not talking to people with any common sense. I did 22 passes the day I went 11.87@113.5mph, My slowest slip was a 12.07@112.7mph, not exactly one pass in a million. I hit 113 quite a few times and at two different tracks and yet my car only dynoed 326rwhp. No matter how many times you put it out there these people cannot comprehend track elevation, density altitude, and the track itself all contribute to running quick times and fast trap speeds.

Further a couple of them in here have no idea what a converter does, one guy saying it will only add 3 tenths and maybe more if you have internal mods like a camshaft. All I had was a set of headers and a lid, and just by changing the stock converter for a Yank ST3500 I went from 12.6’s down to 11.8’s, that is whole lot more than just 3 tenths, and I surely did not need internal engine mods to go quicker.

The top 50 stock internal with bolt on list would not be on this site if it did bear any significance. People keep saying it is not possible to run a 7.3 in a 4th gen car, and yet there are several cars on that top 50 list that have done just that. If I was running 7.5’s with a small 3500rpm converter and there were guys running quicker times with a looser converter some as high as 4600rpm it is not hard to figure out they were 7.3’s and low 11 cars.

Originally Posted by blake110106

et this et that. what was the MPH on these runs. I bet you dont remember that huh.

So you saying your buddy run 7.32 which equals to 11.40 in a 02 A4 SS with 4:10s, and 4000 stall. it took full exhaust, cam, 3500 stall, 125 dry shot, 315 nittos to do an 11.26 at 120 with a 1.6X 60' thats is 7.2 1/8 mile. oh and full weight in a buddies car. he s known as BrianCWS6 on here. he now has a 02 WS6 M6

Originally Posted by BigBake

Really have you ever considered your car might weigh considerablly more, the elevation that you ran at, and the local weather conditions that day? Probably not!



12.90@110 (1.90) bone stock, yes even the crappy F1's can hook on a good track. Conditions 80ft elevaton, with a DA of -800ft.

Originally Posted by blake110106

hmmm so I guess you cant read huh and your one of those people that says "well is the temp was this and my elevation was this i would run XX.XX@XXX it was a buddies car full weight WS6 and he weights about 125 soaking wet.

show me a stock LT1 A4 car completely stock that will do that.

Originally Posted by BigBake

Yet you cannot comprehend simple math, an average WS6 equipped Trans Am weighed in at 3600lbs, that is 300lbs more than my stock Camaro SS. Already an advantage is weight, not hard to realize that other factors come into play. The track and its prep, I was cutting 1.56 to 1.59 60fts, so traction was optimal. Plus the location of the track being at near sea level is a benefit, furthered by local weather conditions that day.

Comparing an LT1 to an LS3 is ridiculous at least the LS series of engines share the same design, the LT1 is ancient in comparison to Gen III/Gen VI motor. A much better comparison is obviously an LS1 equipped car, who cares what an LT1 ran stock they are not even close to being the same.

P.S. If I had a camshaft, full exhaust, stall, 315 series tire, and a 125 shot to get to an 11.26 I would have burned my car.

Originally Posted by bjjblackbelt

here's yet another guy going 7.51 in the 1/8th with a bolt on z-28 auto with just a stall i dont even think he has gears