2010 COPO Camaro????
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Pull? No, not directly with GM...but I DO have "friends"...who have "friends"...and the answered questions and additional feedback just may be very worthwhile...
...and I do know how to spell Scott Settlemire's name without looking...
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...and I do know how to spell Scott Settlemire's name without looking...
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Hey folks, do me a favor...
Post, or PM me, with YOUR thoughts on the vehicle content of a "buyable" COPO Camaro...one YOU would actually consider paying for...
1SS?
2SS?
LS7? (+ $15K, warranteed)
LSA/LS9? (+$25K, warranteed)
Stick?
Automatic?
"Understated", and racy?
Loaded, and cruisable?
Your answers may NOT be in vain...
Thanks!
Post, or PM me, with YOUR thoughts on the vehicle content of a "buyable" COPO Camaro...one YOU would actually consider paying for...
1SS?
2SS?
LS7? (+ $15K, warranteed)
LSA/LS9? (+$25K, warranteed)
Stick?
Automatic?
"Understated", and racy?
Loaded, and cruisable?
Your answers may NOT be in vain...
Thanks!
No power windows
No power locks
No power seats
1 drivers air bag
no awesome stereo system
No DUBZ
No onstar
Just a straight stripper SS meant for nothing but excitement.
The reason car sales are so shitty is because they are making the cars that people love to drive unattainable these days. I don't need a 1200 dollar set of seats that are heated and cooled. I don't need a ghetto blaster sound system to be happy in my car. I don't need power everything because I'm not so lazy that I can't position things in my car by hand.
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I would like to see a 1SS with the LS3 and a six speed.
No power windows
No power locks
No power seats
1 drivers air bag
no awesome stereo system
No DUBZ
No onstar
Just a straight stripper SS meant for nothing but excitement.
The reason car sales are so shitty is because they are making the cars that people love to drive unattainable these days. I don't need a 1200 dollar set of seats that are heated and cooled. I don't need a ghetto blaster sound system to be happy in my car. I don't need power everything because I'm not so lazy that I can't position things in my car by hand.
No power windows
No power locks
No power seats
1 drivers air bag
no awesome stereo system
No DUBZ
No onstar
Just a straight stripper SS meant for nothing but excitement.
The reason car sales are so shitty is because they are making the cars that people love to drive unattainable these days. I don't need a 1200 dollar set of seats that are heated and cooled. I don't need a ghetto blaster sound system to be happy in my car. I don't need power everything because I'm not so lazy that I can't position things in my car by hand.
If there was ever a car that could be fun to drive this would be it especially if you could get it with a suspension package that compliments the wheel and tires.
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I would order a "COPO" stripper Camaro with an LS7. It's the 427 NA that gets me. Put that in a stripped Camaro that weighs at least what a 4th gen weighs and I sign me up! Must be available as a manual too. Please do not "over-bagde" the car either! Original COPO cars had very few indications that they were monsters!
I love the original ZL1 1969 Camaros! Dog dish hub caps, no radio, no A/C, no power steering. Just a huge motor and 4 speed rock crusher.
I love the original ZL1 1969 Camaros! Dog dish hub caps, no radio, no A/C, no power steering. Just a huge motor and 4 speed rock crusher.
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I would like to see a 1SS with the LS3 and a six speed.
No power windows
No power locks
No power seats
1 drivers air bag
no awesome stereo system
No DUBZ
No onstar
Just a straight stripper SS meant for nothing but excitement.
The reason car sales are so shitty is because they are making the cars that people love to drive unattainable these days. I don't need a 1200 dollar set of seats that are heated and cooled. I don't need a ghetto blaster sound system to be happy in my car. I don't need power everything because I'm not so lazy that I can't position things in my car by hand.
No power windows
No power locks
No power seats
1 drivers air bag
no awesome stereo system
No DUBZ
No onstar
Just a straight stripper SS meant for nothing but excitement.
The reason car sales are so shitty is because they are making the cars that people love to drive unattainable these days. I don't need a 1200 dollar set of seats that are heated and cooled. I don't need a ghetto blaster sound system to be happy in my car. I don't need power everything because I'm not so lazy that I can't position things in my car by hand.
That's one reason I hate the new Camaro. You have to get big *** rims to get the LS3 and that kind of fights logic. Lets but a rubber band tire on a car with a bunch of power. Go GM!
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By the way "friends" at GM will get you no where. They are all useless as noted by their economic performance.
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I would like to see a 1SS with the LS3 and a six speed.
No power windows
No power locks
No power seats
1 drivers air bag
no awesome stereo system
No DUBZ
No onstar
Just a straight stripper SS meant for nothing but excitement.
The reason car sales are so shitty is because they are making the cars that people love to drive unattainable these days. I don't need a 1200 dollar set of seats that are heated and cooled. I don't need a ghetto blaster sound system to be happy in my car. I don't need power everything because I'm not so lazy that I can't position things in my car by hand.
No power windows
No power locks
No power seats
1 drivers air bag
no awesome stereo system
No DUBZ
No onstar
Just a straight stripper SS meant for nothing but excitement.
The reason car sales are so shitty is because they are making the cars that people love to drive unattainable these days. I don't need a 1200 dollar set of seats that are heated and cooled. I don't need a ghetto blaster sound system to be happy in my car. I don't need power everything because I'm not so lazy that I can't position things in my car by hand.
Yes.... I know years ago.... cars did come with only one... but that was before the manufactures started putting in the passenger air bag. To leave out the other air bag(s) now would simply be an open invitation to litigation.
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I know this thread says COPO, but I think they may be building the NICKEY Camaro for '10. Not sure if it is a go yet.
There is also another builder, (that is an AMAZING builder), that is doing a customized version of the '10 Camaro to "wake it up" a bit. Limited production, like 60 cars built. Chris Fesler and John Moss are doing the build.
Different engine choices, LS3, LS7 LS9 or LSx choices. And so on.
Fesler is a member on one of the forums I belong to and this guy and his crew CAN FLAT OUT build some nice cars!!
www.feslerbuilt.com
There is also another builder, (that is an AMAZING builder), that is doing a customized version of the '10 Camaro to "wake it up" a bit. Limited production, like 60 cars built. Chris Fesler and John Moss are doing the build.
Different engine choices, LS3, LS7 LS9 or LSx choices. And so on.
Fesler is a member on one of the forums I belong to and this guy and his crew CAN FLAT OUT build some nice cars!!
www.feslerbuilt.com
#29
I aggree, They are supposed to be baseline cars with the top drivetrain. a Base LS is $23k, pick up a LS7 for $15k, sell out the brand new V6 for $6k? Same price as an SS? Would it be possible to buy one of teh camaro bodies GM sells for $7k, build it up with a LS7 and register it yourself as a Kit car? It probably has to pass safety laws, too though. GM stated these would not be shipped with Vins. Contact Yenko's family for naming rights......
I would order a "COPO" stripper Camaro with an LS7. It's the 427 NA that gets me. Put that in a stripped Camaro that weighs at least what a 4th gen weighs and I sign me up! Must be available as a manual too. Please do not "over-bagde" the car either! Original COPO cars had very few indications that they were monsters!
I love the original ZL1 1969 Camaros! Dog dish hub caps, no radio, no A/C, no power steering. Just a huge motor and 4 speed rock crusher.
I love the original ZL1 1969 Camaros! Dog dish hub caps, no radio, no A/C, no power steering. Just a huge motor and 4 speed rock crusher.
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Hey folks, do me a favor...
Post, or PM me, with YOUR thoughts on the vehicle content of a "buyable" COPO Camaro...one YOU would actually consider paying for...
1SS?
2SS?
LS7? (+ $15K, warranteed)
LSA/LS9? (+$25K, warranteed)
Stick?
Automatic?
"Understated", and racy?
Loaded, and cruisable?
Your answers may NOT be in vain...
Thanks!
Post, or PM me, with YOUR thoughts on the vehicle content of a "buyable" COPO Camaro...one YOU would actually consider paying for...
1SS?
2SS?
LS7? (+ $15K, warranteed)
LSA/LS9? (+$25K, warranteed)
Stick?
Automatic?
"Understated", and racy?
Loaded, and cruisable?
Your answers may NOT be in vain...
Thanks!
Please, post your COPO thoughts publically.
Someone from GM might be listening ....
Thanks,
Dr. Jamie
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Just an observation here. But if all you guys want is a lightweight, stripped down car with a big motor.......no frills, no excessive safety features or sound deadening, no big rims, no excessive electronics..........WHY are you looking at a new Camaro in the first place? Wouldn't a 4th gen F-bod better serve your purpose? These new pony/muscle cars are meant to offer power and performance matched with modern safety and conveniences. Seems to me that if nothing but the power interests you....you'd be better off buying a used, older model car and dropping an LS7 or LS9 in it.
Just saying...
Just saying...
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I do agree that GM could have made some of that standard equipment into optional equipment. Would have brought the cost of the baseline models down some while leaving those features available to those who wanted pay for the option. But it's 2009, and apparently GM wanted to throw the kitchen sink at the new Camaro....and keeping their costs down by not having too many optional elements to contend with during production.
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if i can afford one of the new camaros i think i would opt for the V6 3oo hp model w/ a 6 spd. Pull the engine, add forged pistons, rods, ported heads etc.. and a nice turbo.. for a lot less than a new LS7 SS car.. and if you ordered the V6 car with the least amount of options then you have your sleeper..
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Just an observation here. But if all you guys want is a lightweight, stripped down car with a big motor.......no frills, no excessive safety features or sound deadening, no big rims, no excessive electronics..........WHY are you looking at a new Camaro in the first place? Wouldn't a 4th gen F-bod better serve your purpose? These new pony/muscle cars are meant to offer power and performance matched with modern safety and conveniences. Seems to me that if nothing but the power interests you....you'd be better off buying a used, older model car and dropping an LS7 or LS9 in it.
Just saying...
Just saying...
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The "COPO" car was done as a SEMA Concept car, initially...NO specific production plans, then...it was done to gauge consumer interest...
My questions, above, and opinion solicitation is in an attempt to show the "need" for a Dealer-available version. Like the Z28, this "COPO" concept is, at best, on hold, perhaps indefinitely under prevailing circumstance...UNLESS consumer demand makes it an unavoidable car to build...within GM or "outside"...
How would YOUR version look, or be equipped with? LS7, or LSA/LS9? Stick, or Automatic?
My questions, above, and opinion solicitation is in an attempt to show the "need" for a Dealer-available version. Like the Z28, this "COPO" concept is, at best, on hold, perhaps indefinitely under prevailing circumstance...UNLESS consumer demand makes it an unavoidable car to build...within GM or "outside"...
How would YOUR version look, or be equipped with? LS7, or LSA/LS9? Stick, or Automatic?
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Just an observation here. But if all you guys want is a lightweight, stripped down car with a big motor.......no frills, no excessive safety features or sound deadening, no big rims, no excessive electronics..........WHY are you looking at a new Camaro in the first place? Wouldn't a 4th gen F-bod better serve your purpose? These new pony/muscle cars are meant to offer power and performance matched with modern safety and conveniences. Seems to me that if nothing but the power interests you....you'd be better off buying a used, older model car and dropping an LS7 or LS9 in it.
Just saying...
Just saying...
How about because 4th gens are old falling apart cars? Maybe because we're true auto enthusiasts that want the latest and greatest technology without all the extra bullshit we don't need? Maybe we like the new styling and want a warranty as well? And maybe just maybe we like to get the best bang for our buck.
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[QUOTE=chrisdacarnut;11492504]How about because 4th gens are old falling apart cars? Maybe because we're true auto enthusiasts that want the latest and greatest technology without all the extra bullshit we don't need? Maybe we like the new styling and want a warranty as well? And maybe just maybe we like to get the best bang for our buck.[/QUOTE
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