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Old 01-09-2006, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chaman
I just love this car. I will be in the market for a new toy next year (after I get a new Mustang for the wife...she just loves the thing!) If these become a reality I will wait until this one arrives. The bad thing is the timing....2009 seems to long. I hope they could push it forward at least to 2007. I guess if the reaction of the public is positive enough they decide to ride the wave in time. Another thing that worries me is what Lutz said about sales expectation for it to be successful. He said a number of 150,000 to 160,000 units per year. It seems a bit high for me.
did he say per year? i heard he just said it needs to sell 160k to be profitable.. i assumed that means over it's lifetime
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Originally Posted by FireStorm
did he say per year? i heard he just said it needs to sell 160k to be profitable.. i assumed that means over it's lifetime
over its lifetime? that's per year.
Old 01-09-2006, 05:36 PM
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After watching the video, it's starting to grow on me.

Of course, this means that now GM will never make it.
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I like the look of the camaro. I think that GM needs to take it from concept to production. GM just can't let Ford rule the pony war! You know GM needs to get back into the pony wars when Dodge has entered the market as well.
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Originally Posted by 383ss
over its lifetime? that's per year.
yeah, you are probably right.. that's doable.. but tough.. it's about what the mustang sells...

but with platform sharing, i'm sure a lot of cars will be using this same RWD platform.. and perhaps that 160k can be broken up between them for it to be profitable.. who knows
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There is definately going to be a 5th gen camaro in my garage either the year they come out or the year after, depending on where I stand financially. All I know is that I am completely head over heals in love with this concept and can't wait to see them on the road.
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I don't know what some of you guys are complaining about?
(You must be Ford and Dodge moles trying to undermine the General)
(It will never work)

This Car is very Sexy, Muscular and Stealth, all at the same time.

I bought my 2002 Camaro brand new and I will by this one brand new too!

GM, take my advice (a qualified buyer) and build it... They will come.

Make mine with the LS7 and keep it under 3500 pounds.

I'll take mine in silver.

PS. I love the wheels, make mine black.

Now I can make my 02 Camaro an all out racer and buy this one for the street.

Camaro = 4 seats I have a family.
Corvette, nice car, but only 2 seats.

I prefer Muscle cars over Sports cars anyway.

Way to go GM

Would you like some constructive criticism?
I would delete that front scoop before the hood.
Go with a traditional Cowl Induction.
FWIW, I don't like it on the ZO6 either.
Old 01-09-2006, 09:40 PM
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Ok! We will do all you say....call your nearest dealer, we will have a concept car like you described just for you!

Bob Lutz
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Originally Posted by chaman
Ok! We will do all you say....call your nearest dealer, we will have a concept car like you described just for you!

Bob Lutz


While we're at it, how about an option for just a rolling chassis!

PLease please build that ****! I'll be at the show in 2 days, can't wait to see it.
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I`ll have one in my Garage when they come out!! Right next to my WS6!!
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Not a surprise to me, as I was expecting to hear this. GM's stock, which had been trading around ~$20 / share for the last few weeks, surged 8% yesterday on the news that one financial anlysist said bankruptcy is unlikely for a long time, and on the news of this car. We shall see.
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woo hoo! If you build it, they will come
Old 01-10-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BadMoFo
woo hoo! If you build it, they will come
Some of that was also market driven too, as the Dow Industrial Avg. surged above 11k for the first time post 9/11.
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I'm on board. I hope they make an RS-SS/z28 though, I've always been a fan of the hideaways.
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They will smooth out some things and it will look even better before they put it into production. remember the 05 mustang GT concept?, it wasnt exactly like what they put out for the real 05. I just hope they do it soon i want to see this thing run!!
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Originally Posted by spootnik



That is pure sex right there!


If they clean it up right, I think I just found my first "new" car
Ok I really really like this. Someone at work today suggested we e-mail this to Bob Lutz. I am seriously considering it... What do you all think? Should we forward this with hopes that (if the designers have not already) consider this?

Brian
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Whether or not i need to see it in person. The problem i see in the sales department though is that as DCX and ford are already producing their new car line/body styles they are making money now. What happens in 2009 when people don't care for the retro look? It's just my opinion that GM needs to take a chance and produce faster not 2 years later when everyone else has made their money.
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Originally Posted by coxta
They will smooth out some things and it will look even better before they put it into production. remember the 05 mustang GT concept?, it wasnt exactly like what they put out for the real 05. I just hope they do it soon i want to see this thing run!!
yeah but if i remember correctly the 05 concept looked better than the production. i mean it is growing on me but as soon as i saw that charger, i felll in love. and if it does remind people of the 1st gen camaro then so be it, maybe thats why i like it.



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