Any Guesstimates on the Camaro V6 HP and TQ numbers?
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^I had a 3.8 with open 3.08's and it was a mid 15 second car. Almost everyone I know of who has an A4 w/ open 3.08's runs mid-high 15's, if they can launch the damn car in decent weather.
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Originally Posted by Chadder
^I had a 3.8 with open 3.08's and it was a mid 15 second car. Almost everyone I know of who has an A4 w/ open 3.08's runs mid-high 15's, if they can launch the damn car in decent weather.
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97 Camaro - 14.907 @ 91.64
Intake, exhaust, tuning, some weight reduction, a touch of suspension, oh and gear is good
Intake, exhaust, tuning, some weight reduction, a touch of suspension, oh and gear is good
Every bolt on along with that little bottle between the back seats.
14.43 75 shot with a lot of KR and before headers, CAI, P&P throttlebody, 100 shot and a good nitrous tune
14.43 75 shot with a lot of KR and before headers, CAI, P&P throttlebody, 100 shot and a good nitrous tune
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This is my 1998 Pontiac Firebird. It is a 3.8L V6, five speed. Mods include, WS6 hood, Chrome 17/9.5 ZO6 wheels with Yokahama Avs Es100 255/40's on front and 275/40 rear, 30th anniversary TA style stripes, Flowmaster 2.5in cat-back, Whisper lid with Kool blue filter, Texas Speed custom pcm, Hurst shifter, Lakewood panhard bar and rear control arms, LS1 aluminum drive shaft, Hotchkis springs with Trans Am DeCarbon shocks, New SLP complete rear end with Aluminum cover and Auburn diff with 3.42 gears, Autometer carbon fiber water temp and air fuel ratio gauges, Taylor plug wires with NGK TR55 plugs, ZZPerformance 180* thermostat, and a home made SLP style cold air induction scoop.
I have recently raced it and my best time was 15.56 @88 with a 2.23 60' time. It may be able to do a little better, but it was fast enough to beat a mid 90's 4.6L Mustang GT by 3 tenths. Not bad for a 231ci V6.
I have recently raced it and my best time was 15.56 @88 with a 2.23 60' time. It may be able to do a little better, but it was fast enough to beat a mid 90's 4.6L Mustang GT by 3 tenths. Not bad for a 231ci V6.
seems like he dumped a few grand into his car...but yet he's running what you claim bone stock? it's a nice car though, i give him that.
they're 16 second cars minus the Y87 package. i drove them and hung out with the crowd for 3 years, i know what they can do. most people out there claiming they run 15's in them are full of **** and have never taken it to the track. they just guesstimate. "well it FEELS like a 15 second car." right, it's not. it runs 16's stock. get over it. it's slow. i owned one.
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You owned a 3.4...awesome. The 3.8 is NOT a 3.4. The fastest N/A 3.4 is like low 15's with a cam, lots of gear, and all boltons. WhooWooo!!
So what if that guy had alot more in mods...that's way besides the point. He could live in Colorado for all I care...since LS1's are 14 second cars there My buddy (Not on FTv6) with an open 3.08+exhaust car ran a 15.4 @ 88 with a 2.27 60' the other weekend at Ennis, thank ya very much.
You do realize how much KR hurts 3.8's right? That's the bane of the 3800II...A ton of high horsepower guys can't run the times they should be because of KR. With a good tune he should be hitting high 13's with some gear. And P&P throttle bodies on a 3.8 are a joke...that's hardly a mod. The stock one already flows well enough for 9's. (The ZZP GTP)
The average stock A4 3.8 runs a 15.7@87. Start a thread over at FTv6 for all I care.
So what if that guy had alot more in mods...that's way besides the point. He could live in Colorado for all I care...since LS1's are 14 second cars there My buddy (Not on FTv6) with an open 3.08+exhaust car ran a 15.4 @ 88 with a 2.27 60' the other weekend at Ennis, thank ya very much.
mid 14's with full intake, exhaust AND nitrous doesn't sound like a mid 15 second car STOCK to me!
The average stock A4 3.8 runs a 15.7@87. Start a thread over at FTv6 for all I care.
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Man V6 and gas saving when the V8s are coming with fuel mangement who cares about V6s the V8s will get just as good as the V6s will on gas and they have no power comparison. come on man V8 V8 V8 (LS7)
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Originally Posted by Chadder
The average stock A4 3.8 runs a 15.7@87. Start a thread over at FTv6 for all I care.
i knew 3 guys with them. i owned a V6 for 3 years. i knew the crowd well. they're slow. a Y87 could hit mid 15's. 15's in an open differential 3.08 car would be one hell of an awesome run. that is ANYTHING but a typical run.
i find the members of FTV6's mods and quarter mile times much more reliable than your hearsay. when i see guys with full exhaust and intake running low-mid 15's, that generally states that the car does not run 15.7 stock. i doubt they dumped 2 grand into the car to go .3 seconds faster.
all your bantering in the world doesn't change my point either, which you seem to be unable to comprehend. new V6 mustangs are much faster than old V6 f-bodies and if the new camaro is to have a V6 counterpart, they need to make it faster. 15.0-15.2 will be needed on AVERAGE (unlike the freak 15.7 times you're giving me, i don't care if 1 guy drove a 15.7 and got a freak. that's like saying our 4th gen LS1 cars are 12 second cars because one guy from a magazine drove a freak to a 12.89. they're 13 second cars. that is what you can expect, just like you can expect low 16's with the V6'ers).
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i find the members of FTV6's mods and quarter mile times much more reliable than your hearsay. when i see guys with full exhaust and intake running low-mid 15's, that generally states that the car does not run 15.7 stock. i doubt they dumped 2 grand into the car to go .3 seconds faster.
http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...ls&userid=1117
Here's a stock A4 non-y87 car in the 15's.
http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...ils&userid=208
Heres one albiet with exhaust (ghetto intakes don't count...cause most of the time they don't work as well as a real intake)
From what I've seen from the 05+ stock v6 mustangs on the street, they are no faster than 3800 F-bodies. I havn't seen any at the track.
Either way, this thread sucks. The new Camaro will have a faster v6 model than the mustang.
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I have a 99 V6 with the Y87 package, an airbox lid, and exhaust. I ran at the track a couple of weeks ago and my best run was 15.75 in the quarter with a 2.2 60' time. It was 91 degrees and high humidity, equivalent altitude of 4100 feet. So in better conditions I would expect 15.5 easily. The new V6 Mustang are doing low 15's, so they are a tad faster. It would be nice to see the new Camaro V6 run into the 14's from the factory. I believe Motor Trend did a simulation of the 2009 Camaro and the V6 with the 3.9L (240 hp) did run into the 14's. But what do computers know?
I have a 99 V6 with the Y87 package, an airbox lid, and exhaust. I ran at the track a couple of weeks ago and my best run was 15.75 in the quarter with a 2.2 60' time. It was 91 degrees and high humidity, equivalent altitude of 4100 feet. So in better conditions I would expect 15.5 easily. The new V6 Mustang are doing low 15's, so they are a tad faster. It would be nice to see the new Camaro V6 run into the 14's from the factory. I believe Motor Trend did a simulation of the 2009 Camaro and the V6 with the 3.9L (240 hp) did run into the 14's. But what do computers know?
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GM should one up Ford complete with this. Displacement on Demand LS4 as the base engine. Charge the same as Ford charges for it's V6 Mustang. 300 HP for dirt cheap with good economy, and leave the LS2 for a sports car Z28. Unless the American car buyer is completely ball-less (which they may be with all the toyota sales these days) this could help GM jump back into the pony car scene with buyers saying "well it costs as much as the V6 mustang, gets the same fuel economy, but it's got more power"
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I have a feeling you will see the 3.6 HF V6. It would help the car compete with 350Z's and the like from a public perception standpoint.
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Can't really say I've taken my v6 to the track yet but I ran a 05 stang and barely pulled on it. Stock mustang and I've got intake, full exhaust with probably too much flow for a 3.8, plug wires. Stock gears and open diff. Kind of ashamed of it but it gets me by on gas till I can get my ls1 for weekend fun