Ace$nyper

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I searched and all I could see was debates no real content on this so here is my question to all.

Do you want the new camaro to suck or not even make it out? If so why?

I'll be honest a small part of me wants it too, I'll miss having the most bitching stock camaros ever made.

If anyone has any reasons why they would like to see the new camaro be a failure or get canned before its made post here.

69mach

BLKWS.6

From what I see, its a bitch car already with no publicly known plans to put anything more than a 5.3 300bhp motor in the Z28 and a 4.0 240hp V6 in the base. PEOPLE SAY LS2, but GM claims 5.3...

69mach

They dont know what there gonna do yet but I'm sure it wont be that bad....hopefully. I bleed blue....but I hope they come out with a bad a$$ camaro so ford will have to step it up in 2009

silver01vette

Honestly do you think that GM would put the LS2 in a Trailblazer SS but not in the Camaro.... I mean they are wanting it to sell a set amount or it will get canned in the first year. Hopefully they will be smart and put the LS2 in it or if they do put the 5.3 in there it will inevitably fail.

BLKWS.6

All i know is the last press from GM was staing 5.3L according to the car rags.

silver01vette

That would really suck.... I just hope that doesn't happen.

WECIV

I can guarantee you I will not buy a 5.3, even if I have to buy a DC or a Stang GT. I however doubt GM would be that dumb.

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OctaneZ28

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Key phrase: "according to the car rags"
Sorry, but car rags are just that... rags.
ZERO reliable information has come from them on this topic.

If you think GM won't put a bigger engine in the 5th Gen than a 5.3...
Well.. you have another think coming lol.

Ace$nyper

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Much could be said from all the posts from ppl who have a GM insider friend lol.

I havn't ruled out it will not be the 5.3L honestly.

OctaneZ28

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I haven't ruled out the possibility of the 5.3 appearing in the 5th Gen either.
If it does, it's not gonna be the only V8, nor the biggest, nor the most powerful.

Blakbird24

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Would a 360hp 5.3L stripped Z28 really be a bad thing? If they can keep it under 3500lbs (the no option model), that would still be faster than a 2002 SS.

I would be willing to bet my car that the new SS (or whatever they call the king) will have AT LEAST an LS2, more likely a variant of the motor.

Ace$nyper

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Really do you think they will offer more then 1 each *6 and 8?* With how much time and effort it takes to make motors now if the ls2 cant go in.

I really don't know maybe, time will tell.

slw ls1

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I think that GM knows exactly what they're going to do with the camaro, the LS-2 going it along with a higher output engine, ls-7 ls-9 who knows. I just think that GM's leading everyone on making them think its gonna be a bitch car then supprise everyone when it comes out with a 500+hp version that no one knew about.

1994Z28Lt1

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i can also quarantee that the 5.3 which may be an option will not even be close to the most powerfull motor that they put in the Camaro (if the come out) Fbodfather has already said that it will be just as good probably better performing than the mustang and chellenger/charger and we already know chryslers top dog is gonna be the 425 hp motor

they already have the ls2 in the GTO if anyone thinks there will be anything less in the camaro has another thing coming

im sure they will have a model that will compete with the GT500

come on now Chevy cannot have Ford showing them taillights we know gm better than that, they just have to get this thing in production

UnZFeat'd

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they are saying that a new camaro will be faster and almost as cheap as a similarly equipped mustang. that is probably why they are going to put a 5.3 liter in it. it will still beat the mustang GTs, but it wont be the biggest or baddest, only the cheapest. im thinking that the 5.3 will be the one under 30k that will try to compete with the GT. I seriously doubt people will be getting an LS2 car for under 30k.

Swang

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why's that? we already can in a GTO

98hardtopZ

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chevrolet.com definately states that its a 6.0L 400hp ls2 so calm down 5.3L guys....seems as tho its actually gonna come back? i hope it does, and beats so much ford mustang gt *** that ford wont know what to do...

Genesis_26317

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When you look at it from a normal persons viewpoint (I mean people who aren't from this site etc.) 320hp from a 5.3 liter or 320hp from a 5.7 doesn't make any difference. Most people see 2.4 liter or WOW 4.6 liters from Ford. Normal people buy most of the cars. 60k people a year didn't join this site from 98-02

Plus 400hp for a car that is supposed to compete with the Eclipse, Celica, and Mustang isn't going to appeal to insurance companies. Don't tell me you don't think the Camaro isn't being made to compete with the import "tuners" as well, there are other cars on the road besides the Mustang. The Cobolt, Sky and Solstice (how do you spell that) can't compete with every 2 door on the road and the Grand Prix and Monte Carlo aren't all that appealing (oh yeah the G6 is out there too).

Anyway look at how little power they put out, the RX8 doesn't put out 320hp-350hp. Neither does pretty much any other normal car. The closest now are the Mustang at 300, the Evo (~275 I think) and the WRX STi (~300+). Nothing even close to 400hp. The GTO's gas mileage is dismal compared to those and it is priced to sell, GTO buyers are also not really in the same circle as most Camaro and Mustang buyers. They're in the Charger and the holy crap I get all that for how much crowd.

I think the whole 400hp idea is a bad case of group think. The LS7 idea is way out there too. You never saw a LT5 for the early 4th gen Camaro, you barely saw the LT4 idea. You also never saw a LS6 in the 4th-and-a-half gens. There were not even many 1LE's or 320hp SS packages.

I think a VVT 5.3 with DoD is much more likely. The new Escalade has a VVT 403 hp V8 in it.

I think we should all make a group pot and bet on hp amounts if the car is made. We can put other side bets on it to, like year it is made, IRS, weight, whether it is ever made etc. I would bet on a 5.3 over a 6.2, VVT, 320-350 hp over 400 hp, 2009 IRS, with a curb weight minimum 500 pounds over the 4th gen.

The only reason I bet it would have over 350 hp would be if it needed it to be just a tad faster than the 4th gen, but it would have a steeply reduced rear-axle ratio (2.73). Though at that point I bet it would just get WAY to expensive 30k+ to sit next to the Mustang. Ford really saved their pennies on that car; solid rear, 5-speed manual, iron engine (correct me if I am wrong with that), and a majority of profitable v6 sales.

Sh&t people are starting to call the Accord a #&#ing muslce car with a (WOW) 3.0 liter 244hp!!!!

98hardtopZ

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its coming....it will have a ls2 400hp 6.0L....what would you like to bet?