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Old May 24, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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Not a big fan of it's looks! I love the drivetrain selections but not so hot on the looks anymore, at least in black.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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I concur. Black is not befitting of that car. Oh, and lose the amber tail lights.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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It won't have amber tails here in North America.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChaseSS
how much is the new camaro gonna weigh? do I dare ask? although it can't be as bad as the challenger lol
I've read some speculation of anywhere from 3800 - 4000 lbs based on it's Holden cousins. Sounds about right. I really don't think it will be anywhere near the 3600 lbs the 4th gens are at, though.

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Old May 24, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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yahoo doesn't know whats going on. just like motor trend or any other car "source" magazine. just wait till the official specs come from GM.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Good stuff. The camaro looks Okay to me but the options are enough for me to get over that it doesnt look as good as its competition.
400 Horsepower engine? An we all know GM under-rates their vehicles. Were looking at 430-440 actual horsepower. 6 speed manual and automatic? Perfect.
Also remember that those wheels arent going on the production version. More likely to be 18-inch base wheels with 19-inches being the upgraded version.
Headlights are going to be from the original concept the larger 69 looking ones.
I heard that a GM offical said the car was going to weigh 3725 pounds base model
An insider who's driven the car says the performance of the new Camaro "will take 35 years off your life."
Already saving up for the down payment

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Old May 25, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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It will offer 20s just as the new Mopars do.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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What the production headlamp clusters will look like can be seen on this clay mock-up.

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Old May 25, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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The car looks fine in black.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Yeah I'm not so sure that Yahoo is the best source for truly accurate information on performance cars LOL. Some of that info does make sense though.




Yeah that does seem a little backwards. But do keep in mind that back in the day (1967-1969) the Z28 was considered a higher performance variant than the SS was, I think. Although clearly the more potent motors were available in the SSS and the COPO cars.

WRONG ! As much as If like to agree with you cause mine's just a Z/28 , it just ain't so . The big bad-*** SS's with the big block 396/375 HP was much more potent than the little 302 cid that could just barely get into the 14's off the show-room . They were developed for road racing & not straight line drag racing . Even the base 396/325 HP would slaughter the little Z/28 . The 396/350 HP would simply bury it & the solid lifter 375 HP SS could & did kill many Hemi's , Goats , and Boss Mustangs . It was under-rated for NHRA A-Stock class competition & insurance purposes .
That same identical engine was rated 425 HP when installed in a big full size Biscane / Bel air / Impala body .
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Old May 26, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Z ROADSTER
WRONG ! As much as If like to agree with you cause mine's just a Z/28 , it just ain't so . The big bad-*** SS's with the big block 396/375 HP was much more potent than the little 302 cid that could just barely get into the 14's off the show-room . They were developed for road racing & not straight line drag racing . Even the base 396/325 HP would slaughter the little Z/28 . The 396/350 HP would simply bury it & the solid lifter 375 HP SS could & did kill many Hemi's , Goats , and Boss Mustangs . It was under-rated for NHRA A-Stock class competition & insurance purposes .
That same identical engine was rated 425 HP when installed in a big full size Biscane / Bel air / Impala body .
Agreed, and I did sort of say that as well in my last line.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Z ROADSTER
WRONG ! As much as If like to agree with you cause mine's just a Z/28 , it just ain't so . The big bad-*** SS's with the big block 396/375 HP was much more potent than the little 302 cid that could just barely get into the 14's off the show-room . They were developed for road racing & not straight line drag racing . Even the base 396/325 HP would slaughter the little Z/28 . The 396/350 HP would simply bury it & the solid lifter 375 HP SS could & did kill many Hemi's , Goats , and Boss Mustangs . It was under-rated for NHRA A-Stock class competition & insurance purposes .
That same identical engine was rated 425 HP when installed in a big full size Biscane / Bel air / Impala body .
You do realize that there WERE some Z/28's out there that would cane the **** out of ANY factory 396 right?

Z/28 is King. SS is just a package.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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This article is purely speculation.

Don't take anything as fact until the General gives us the real info.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydramatic
You do realize that there WERE some Z/28's out there that would cane the **** out of ANY factory 396 right?

Z/28 is King. SS is just a package.
Here's a little something I found:

"In December 1966, Chevrolet then quietly released one of the most famous options codes of all time, option Z-28. Unpublicized and unknown by most of the buying public (and most Chevrolet sales people for that matter) and not mentioned in any sales literature, the only way someone could order the Z-28 package was to order a base Camaro with the Z-28 option, mandatory front disc brakes with power assist, and the Muncie 4-speed transmission. You could not order the SS package, automatic transmission, air conditioning, or the convertible. What you got was a unique 302 cid small block (Non-California emission cars were labeled MO while California emission engines were labeled MP) that was created by taking the 327 block and installing the short-stroke 283 crank. Specifically designed to compete in the Club of America Trans Am racing series which placed a 305 cid limit on its entries, the Z-28 was available to the public solely to qualify the car for racing. Advertised horsepower was listed at just 290bhp, which was not very impressive until one hooked it up to a dyno and got actual readings of 360-400 bhp. The Z-28 also came with a competition suspension, broad racing stripes on the hood and trunklid and could be combined with the RS option package. There was no Z-28 badging at all, lest it attract to much attention. The Z-28 proved to be difficult to launch on the street because its high reving engine was lethargic under 4000rpm and worked best when it was shifted at 7500rpm (!). Once it got going, the Z28 was tough to beat and boosted a 140mph top speed and numerous racing victories. Only 602 Z-28s were sold in 1967, making it a truly desirable collectable."

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Old May 27, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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Id take that 300hp V6, better on gas and same power as my V8 Ls1 has now. Throw on some bolt ons and your lookin at 330hp. While still retaining badass MPG
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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You know, when the hell did Yahoo become a reliable source of news? When did they stop regurgitating what the ******* tabloids say? Never. That's when. Neither OctaneZ28 OR FbodFather have confirmed this. When they say it's true, I'll believe it. When I see the REAL options, not this Yahoo Guessing Game, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll call it what it is: Bullshit.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bmxer8699
Id take that 300hp V6, better on gas and same power as my V8 Ls1 has now. Throw on some bolt ons and your lookin at 330hp. While still retaining badass MPG
Unless there is something wrong with your LS1, its making 345hp like every other stock LS1, no matter what they are rated at. And I honestly don't see this V6 getting much, if any better mileage than a sub 400hp V8...
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Old May 27, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Semper91-RS
You know, when the hell did Yahoo become a reliable source of news? When did they stop regurgitating what the ******* tabloids say? Never. That's when. Neither OctaneZ28 OR FbodFather have confirmed this. When they say it's true, I'll believe it. When I see the REAL options, not this Yahoo Guessing Game, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll call it what it is: Bullshit.
Agreed, but even if Yahoo WAS telling the truth, I don't think Octane or FBodfather would be at liberty to confirm it. Usually, GM likes to do that itself.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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That's what I'm saying. If neither GM or its Reps to the community have announced anything, and we haven't heard it (I'm an avid follower of anything either of them say), then I highly doubt someone at Yahoo heard it before the loyal community.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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LS3 Camaro anytime over the LSA. Cam+boltons and gameover for the high end version. Like the LS7...I really really hope its gonna be powered by the LS3. If not, think the wont be better than the last GTO. Same weight, same HP, same performance.

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