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Old 08-13-2008, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Evilways
The R/T would do well with a S/C
http://jalopnik.com/400079/sms-super...lenger-charger

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Old 08-13-2008, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 99NMB


Probably not reverent but funny.
OT, but what wheels are those on your car? I like!
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i think itll run better than 14.0 but as far as this car handing GM its *** thats a bunch of BS because it isnt going to happen at the track or the street or in sales.
Old 08-14-2008, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
This doesn't speak to well for the camaro either being 3900lb's with around the same power...but like I said before who keeps their car stock in this hobby anyway ;-)


How wonder how well these cars respond to spray...and how much traction their drivetrain can handle with the right set of tire's...

Pay attention. This is about the R/T, not SRT.

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Old 08-14-2008, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hurley_21_07
Pay attention. This is about the R/T, not SRT.

Dan
My apologies Dan, thanks. Whats the difference in hp between the 2?
Old 08-14-2008, 11:37 AM
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isnt the r/t 370hp? i could be off. Camaro is 422hp, str8 is 425hp but the challengers weigh 300lbs more
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Are those times with an auto or manual?
Old 08-14-2008, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SSNISTR
Slow, no. Slow compared to most of us, yes.

A 14 sec 1/4 mile actually is pretty good. A stock LT1 only ran mid 14's.
It might have been good 15 years ago but today, it's not good for a car like that. I don't see how you can seriously compare this car to one that was introduced 16 years ago when everything was slow compared to todays performance cars. At least compare it to a GTO or anything other than an LT1.
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That is pretty dissapointing considering my Imp SS is listed at 5.6 and 14.2 and only has 303hp vs. 370-375. I still think they're cool though and as mentioned people won't keep them stock.
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Originally Posted by Morpheus
It might have been good 15 years ago but today, it's not good for a car like that. I don't see how you can seriously compare this car to one that was introduced 16 years ago when everything was slow compared to todays performance cars. At least compare it to a GTO or anything other than an LT1.
Well cars like ours didn't weigh 4000 pounds 15 years ago either now did they?

I was simply stating a point. And a 14 sec car will outrun 85% of the cars on the road today if not more...
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I think the main point here is that the camaro will LIKELY run atleast a 13.0 while its competition runs a 14.0. That is assuming that the base SS price is close to 30k being that the R/T base price is 30K. If the camaro base price is closer to 35K or 40K then it is more fair to compare to the SRT8. Which is actully a much closer match as far as performance. Regardless i think 14.0 is dissappointing considering it costs 5k more then a base mustang gt that can run 13.5-13.8
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Originally Posted by CDBiker220
I think the main point here is that the camaro will LIKELY run atleast a 13.0 while its competition runs a 14.0. That is assuming that the base SS price is close to 30k being that the R/T base price is 30K. If the camaro base price is closer to 35K or 40K then it is more fair to compare to the SRT8. Which is actully a much closer match as far as performance. Regardless i think 14.0 is dissappointing considering it costs 5k more then a base mustang gt that can run 13.5-13.8
Base GT's are 27,000 not 25,000. Also, lets wait for the SS price before we label the RT as crap!
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I think it will be way fast than that! closer to the 13.5 area similiar to what the GTO run
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I wouldent expect the R/T to run comparably with the GTO, how will the challenger R/T perform similiar to the GTO when the GTO has 30 more hp, and weighs 400 lbs less?...
Old 08-15-2008, 08:21 AM
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well the ls1 made its first showing in an f-body in 1998, and ls1 f-bodies ran 13's all day. and here it is 2008 and they still haven't caught up, or either just now catching up. pretty bad if you ask me.
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I don't know 14.0 to me sounds slow, my regal gs with a CAI ran a 14.2 when i bought it. V6 and fwd, doesn't say much for a v8 rwd dodge.
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Lol 3V mustangs are faster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe this thing can run with 2Vs hahaha
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Originally Posted by hondakiller
I can't wait to get on the dork at my work who is a total "mopar" fanboy. Anything mopar is the greatest thing ever and anything by anyone else sucks. Funny coming from a guy who drives a neon. If those numbers are accurate, that car's a joke.
Hey now, i'm a mopar lover & have been for years, i was MOPAR when mopar wasn't cool & always will be, my biggest gripe today is all of the wanna be mopar fans out there NOW that there worth a chunk of change, to me thats a joke & they have wrecked the sport in the mopar world, they are not the fans i remember back when you wouldn't be caught "dead" with a Dart in your driveway lol, i remember those days, & the days when the faster car at the local highschool was the O'le mighty 340 Duster who spank *** on the best of them , those stories are true, BUT i do like my GMs also, i love my Camaro, but not to long ago, i spanked on tons of chevy's & fords at the local tracks in my Duster, they never liked lineing up with me, but we always hung out & parked together in the pits.
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Now IMO as for the 14.0 challenger, I'm sure its faster then that in stock trim with a good driver, look at the 300s running 13.0s with next to nothing, that shocked me, i didn't know those cars ran that good, they are claiming low-mid 13s on the new challenger in there testing. we shall see once they start hitting the track.
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Originally Posted by CDBiker220
I wouldent expect the R/T to run comparably with the GTO, how will the challenger R/T perform similiar to the GTO when the GTO has 30 more hp, and weighs 400 lbs less?...
I was talkin about the LS1 GTOs


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