Downsides to convertable?
12-26-2008, 06:14 PM
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^^^ 
everyone says its heavier.....well this in fact it is but a little over a hundred pounds, well anyone runnin two ghetto blaster speakers in the back of their camaro, guess what you are now as heavy as a vert. and what do you think all those sub frame connectors and torque arms weigh. your always gonna have an extra 100 pounds if both vehicles are modded the same but for the average modded f body to the average vert i bet they are closer to the same weight than most believe.
have any of your guys actually looked under a vert? the body rails from front to back are three layers of metal, unlike our thin chincy t top cars. think about it all the extra weight in the vert is the extra metal underneath it. the vert is missing a hatch and two glass t tops, all that weight is under the car. with that extra weight lower to the ground with a set of performance springs and shocks theoretically should handle better.
and noise and creeks........, what f body doesnt make weird *** noises, especially modded ones.
everyone says its heavier.....well this in fact it is but a little over a hundred pounds, well anyone runnin two ghetto blaster speakers in the back of their camaro, guess what you are now as heavy as a vert. and what do you think all those sub frame connectors and torque arms weigh. your always gonna have an extra 100 pounds if both vehicles are modded the same but for the average modded f body to the average vert i bet they are closer to the same weight than most believe.
have any of your guys actually looked under a vert? the body rails from front to back are three layers of metal, unlike our thin chincy t top cars. think about it all the extra weight in the vert is the extra metal underneath it. the vert is missing a hatch and two glass t tops, all that weight is under the car. with that extra weight lower to the ground with a set of performance springs and shocks theoretically should handle better.
and noise and creeks........, what f body doesnt make weird *** noises, especially modded ones.
12-26-2008, 06:53 PM
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I don't feel like buying another car so the vert is going from a fast street car to a stout race car. Currently at 650 rwhp through the exhaust it goes 10.60's in street form on pump (with meth). Adding a cog drive, upping the cam from a 214-224 to a 234-240, midwest fab 9" with all supporting options, 10 point cage, 4L80e with a brake, air/water (ice) intercooler ,race fuel, etc. 9's at 140+ is the goal. Still keeping the A.C. and a mild stall. Probably won't buy another convertible and definitely never another black car, but I'm going to make the most of this one.
12-26-2008, 11:20 PM
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not a fan of vert camaros at all. i test drove a midnight blue ws6 with the formula spoiler and it looked nice though, even wih top up. when down the lip spoiler looked good and sleek, the t/a spoiler would probably look bad (if it ever came with it).
i'd consider it if it were a garage queen that i only drove on nice days with top off as a fun car that i never took to the track. thats a rare want though. imo the point of a car like this is its potential to keep up with more exotic cars (at least in the straights). if you have a vert, it isnt as stiff, its heavier, and you cant use it without ugly rollbar. considering t tops are almost the same thing, not much of a point in having one. just my .02
i'd consider it if it were a garage queen that i only drove on nice days with top off as a fun car that i never took to the track. thats a rare want though. imo the point of a car like this is its potential to keep up with more exotic cars (at least in the straights). if you have a vert, it isnt as stiff, its heavier, and you cant use it without ugly rollbar. considering t tops are almost the same thing, not much of a point in having one. just my .02
12-27-2008, 10:25 AM
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Ladies car? Pull up next to Cablebandit at the track. he had a 9 second vert. don't know of too many ladies owning 9 second T\A's. You do have a point, though. Ladies LOVE verts!
12-27-2008, 10:33 AM
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Yeah, ladies love verts. "Ours" is actually my wife's. However, to all those vert haters I feel sorry for you. On a beautiful day it is really nice to drop the top and go for a drive. Vert > T-top any day in my book. T-tops are a half-*** compromise. If you want to turn a 4th gen F-bod into a max performance effort, start with a hardtop. If you want a super fun cruiser for gorgeous days, get a vert. That is just my opinion and before anyone gets excited, I have two T-top cars.
12-27-2008, 10:36 AM
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not a fan of vert camaros at all. i test drove a midnight blue ws6 with the formula spoiler and it looked nice though, even wih top up. when down the lip spoiler looked good and sleek, the t/a spoiler would probably look bad (if it ever came with it).
i'd consider it if it were a garage queen that i only drove on nice days with top off as a fun car that i never took to the track. thats a rare want though. imo the point of a car like this is its potential to keep up with more exotic cars (at least in the straights). if you have a vert, it isnt as stiff, its heavier, and you cant use it without ugly rollbar. considering t tops are almost the same thing, not much of a point in having one. just my .02
i'd consider it if it were a garage queen that i only drove on nice days with top off as a fun car that i never took to the track. thats a rare want though. imo the point of a car like this is its potential to keep up with more exotic cars (at least in the straights). if you have a vert, it isnt as stiff, its heavier, and you cant use it without ugly rollbar. considering t tops are almost the same thing, not much of a point in having one. just my .02
You can easily lose 125 lbs from the vert (making them the same weight as the t-top, by swapping the wheels for lighter versions (Centerline), and removing the spare tire and jack. This will give you a car that handles better, and performs every bit as well! Oh, did I mention Ladies LOVE VERTS. LOL!
Squeaks and rattles can be minimized by a sub frame connector, and some sound deadening. My vert has ZERO rattles or squeaks. I am not in love with top up appearance (though not bad). Top down, my vert looks like Knight Rider's evil brother !
12-27-2008, 10:39 AM
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how is it half-***? half *** is a moonroof which doesnt do much. t tops are very nice and a great solution to having a stiffer, lighter car that looks better when top is on. the verts are a bit half-assed. GM didnt put much time into them, you can tell. they didnt make the top flow very well and didnt do much to prevent squeaks, flex, and road noise.
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12-27-2008, 05:00 PM
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I went from a convertible Mustang to a hardtop Z. I like the tightness of the coupe, but I miss all the ragtop days.
I say get it, you won't regret it.
I say get it, you won't regret it.
12-27-2008, 06:20 PM
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12-27-2008, 06:47 PM
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My vert is an m6 with cloth seats and no traction control... does have power windows and locks though. As for which leaks more t-top or vert id have to say the t-top. I had a 2000 v6 camaro ttop car back in the day and it would leak all the time from the back of the ttops. My z Vert no leaks at all.
12-27-2008, 07:37 PM
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Can you keep it off permanently? I drove the family 03 Grand Am GT for a few months and the traction control was retarded on that and I had to turn it off EVERY time i started the car. Got annoying after 2 days.
12-27-2008, 09:28 PM
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It is defaulted as on, when you start the car. I have heard of someone reversing the switch to where it is defaulted as off. So, yes it can be done. On my car, it shows up as an orange light on the speedo that says trac off, so I know its off or on easy enough. I do turn it on when the road is wet, or bumpy. Am adding an APS TT soon. With that power, may use it more often, we'll see.