Are 4th Gen F-bods the last Great American Muscle Car?
03-12-2009, 02:25 PM
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Well, I said 900rwhp.... And I do think so... Since you would need to buy the gears, housing, axles, hardware, driveshaft, and then you would have to upgrade the the tranny if it was a T-56 and definitely if it was a 4L60.... T-56 in GTO's are much more superior than those that were in the F-bodies, especially pre-00.... I haven't heard of too many GTO guys bending shift forks or having synchro issues..... I love F-bodies, but I don't see how anyone can see they were the last true american muscle car... Muscle cars evolve along with technology... '67 Charger's had power window option.... Options don't distinguish the difference between muscle car and non-muscle car....Stature and performance do....mustangs, gto's, camaros, challengers, chargers, and even the late V8 Monte Carlos and Impala SS and Grand Prix GXP all evoke a sense of power and thrill of driving... They all perform respectably and have all evolved from something that at one time or another was a bit raw and stripped... And whether it's FWD or RWD shouldn't matter.... It's how the car makes a person feel when they drive it... Powerful and in control and knowing that you have the ability to overtake another car on the road...
03-12-2009, 03:10 PM
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I just built one on Spohn performance's website and it came to nearly $4k $3802.93 to be exact.... Add shipping, panhard bar, and other misc stuff and u'll be at my estimated $5k..... Like I said in the original post.... this was an esitmated price for these as they are still in the developemental stages... Besides with IRS you also get great handling.... I think this got off topic and I am to blame.... But to answer the thread's question??? Absolutely not.... 4th gen F-body's are not the last true Great American Muscle Car...
03-12-2009, 10:05 PM
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I just built one on Spohn performance's website and it came to nearly $4k $3802.93 to be exact.... Add shipping, panhard bar, and other misc stuff and u'll be at my estimated $5k..... Like I said in the original post.... this was an esitmated price for these as they are still in the developemental stages... Besides with IRS you also get great handling.... I think this got off topic and I am to blame.... But to answer the thread's question??? Absolutely not.... 4th gen F-body's are not the last true Great American Muscle Car...
03-13-2009, 08:21 AM
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Lmao! First it was $5k for the rear and drive shaft. Then for the rear, driveshaft, and tranny. Now you're throwing in the panhard bar and suspension parts. I paid right about $3k for my rear and driveshaft. I guess your super duper future G Force GTO 9' will come with free shipping, new tranny and suspension too.
.... UGH I need a drink...
03-13-2009, 12:38 PM
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I believe its all in the eye of the beholder, people see things differently. I dont think the 4th gen is the last true american muscle car, its just that cars now days are a lot different then cars back in the 60's and 70's when the muscle car scene was huge. If a car is RWD has a V8 with a loud *** exhaust and can roast tires from here to mexico, i consider that to be a Muscle car. I even consider the new Corvettes to be muscle cars, they are just in a different class of muscle as they are fast as ****, but also sleek and well crafted in all aspects. Hell they have to be, to be considered Americas Supercar.
03-13-2009, 01:05 PM
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..put a holley projection kit, tci tranny lockup kit and accel distributor on that L69 ...pissed off quite a few c4s and 4th gen fbodys from a dig... 
...sold it to buy a truck and dirt bike ..miss both of them...
03-13-2009, 02:27 PM
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I would hardly call the 83-88 monte carlo a muscle car to be in that cat I would think it would need a large amount of power strait from the factory Im gonne give it to the grand national over the monte
Also the Hemi Cuda, Yenko Camaro, and Shelby GT500 are all unibody cars to my knowledge are we not going to call them muscle cars cause there not full frame cars?
03-15-2009, 12:52 PM
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last muscle car would have to go to the 86-87 Grand national. No other Domestic car was quicker in the 80's. Buick vs mustang was very big up untill the mid 90's.
The Buicks went away because of politics . you just cant have a car quicker than the flagship corvette. 87 was the last year made but the monte carlo ss and the olds 442 were made in 1988 . Buick got dropped i wonder why?
The Buicks went away because of politics . you just cant have a car quicker than the flagship corvette. 87 was the last year made but the monte carlo ss and the olds 442 were made in 1988 . Buick got dropped i wonder why?
