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03-29-2010, 09:49 AM
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Mobil will not say what M1 is made of. Their silence is deafening.
Highly refined Gr-III oil can be called synthetic, even though it isn't fully made of the things you and I would think of when we say the word. Many have asked Mobil what they put in their M1, but again, they are not forthcoming.
M1 is still a good oil. It consistently reads a little high in iron, but maintains good analysis numbers in all the other metals. You can't go wrong using it. But, is it worth the price? That's up to you. If it's a personal thing that you expect "synthetic" when the bottle says "synthetic," you'll be disappointed. But if you're looking for a good oil that is consistent and easy to find, then you'll be ok. It has some real synthetic in it (how much is anyone's guess), but has not been real, actual synthetic for some time. The same thing could be said of all the other commonly found "synthetic" motor oils. Some may be all highly refined Gr-III, others have various amounts of Gr-IV. You would have to play detective on each grade/type.
One of the reasons GC is sought after is that European standards dictate that it must be made of (what we all think of when we say...) synthetic.
However, upon final review, the oils we have to chose from are all pretty good oils. Just don't spend outrageous prices on what may not be an outrageously good oil. Price is decidedly NOT the indicator of a good oil.
Highly refined Gr-III oil can be called synthetic, even though it isn't fully made of the things you and I would think of when we say the word. Many have asked Mobil what they put in their M1, but again, they are not forthcoming.
M1 is still a good oil. It consistently reads a little high in iron, but maintains good analysis numbers in all the other metals. You can't go wrong using it. But, is it worth the price? That's up to you. If it's a personal thing that you expect "synthetic" when the bottle says "synthetic," you'll be disappointed. But if you're looking for a good oil that is consistent and easy to find, then you'll be ok. It has some real synthetic in it (how much is anyone's guess), but has not been real, actual synthetic for some time. The same thing could be said of all the other commonly found "synthetic" motor oils. Some may be all highly refined Gr-III, others have various amounts of Gr-IV. You would have to play detective on each grade/type.
One of the reasons GC is sought after is that European standards dictate that it must be made of (what we all think of when we say...) synthetic.
However, upon final review, the oils we have to chose from are all pretty good oils. Just don't spend outrageous prices on what may not be an outrageously good oil. Price is decidedly NOT the indicator of a good oil.
04-03-2010, 01:12 PM
#24
Ahh Crap. Well Ill just buy some Pennziol platenium or some pennziol Ultra, drain the Mobil 1 from my Camaro and put it into my Firebird. Than put some on that PP or PU into my Camaro cause I don't want to be taking any risks with her.
I run my camaro pretty hard and dont' want to be running into unnecassary trouble or unneeded wear and tear. My Firebird I worry less about, she can take a beating and seems to be always ticking. Besides, you can buy 3.8l v6's for 500 bucks with less than 40k miles.
I run my camaro pretty hard and dont' want to be running into unnecassary trouble or unneeded wear and tear. My Firebird I worry less about, she can take a beating and seems to be always ticking. Besides, you can buy 3.8l v6's for 500 bucks with less than 40k miles.
Last edited by flintwrench69; 04-03-2010 at 01:19 PM.
